Started putting a 125 native together

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Biggreenavalanche

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Well, I finally started my 125 gallon river semi-biotope. This weekend I got the load bearing structure done on the stand, drilled three holes in the back of the tank for a "beananimal" overflow, installed the bulkheads, put the tank on the stand and filled it, and drank a few liquid refreshments. (filled it for an overnight leak test/stand test) By Wednesday I plan on having the river manifold built and installed and by next week I should have the glass I ordered in and installed for the interior "coast to coast" overflow. I will be finishing the stand in red oak furniture grade plywood and red oak trim ( to match existing cabinets ) and, if all goes well should start cycling the tank by mid to end of April. If somebody could tell me how to post pics from an Ipad I would be happy to post...

I have to build a sump and one question I have is this, is a 29 gallon tall a suitable selection for a sump ?

I will also be starting on a 3D background, we'll see how that comes out, LOL !

Another question I have I asked on the substrate forum but didn't get an answer...basically I plan on about an inch of clay based dirt overlayed by an inch to two inches of natural (from the river) gravel, sand, and boulders...Would this make a decent substrate ? I do plan on some native plants, just not a whole lot. I see a lot of refrences to "kitty litter", what is it's purpose and do I need to use it ?

I currently have a large piece of driftwood soaking...any advice on how long to soak ? It is soaking in a rain water tub...

My tenative species list is:
Orange spot sunfish
Blue spot sunfish
Rainbow Darter
Greenside Darter
Banded Darter
Blue Breast Darter (maybe)
Red Fin Shiner
Southern Redbelly Dace
Tadpole matdom (maybe)

Candy Darter (wish list)
Tangerine Darter (wish list)

Any further suggestions ?

The reason I'm calling this tank a "semi-biotope" is with the exception of the Blue Spotted Sunfish, and my two "wish list" fish, all the fish currently exist in Eagle Creek in southern Ohio. Will be making a collecting trip there in late May...should be a blast !

To date costs...
-Tank $125.00
-Wood $85.00
-PVC/Bulkhead $60.00
-Already had all the screws
n such to put the stand
together, so no cost...
-1 3/4 inch diamond hole
saw bit $16.00
-Liquid refreshment $15.00

-Still on the purchase list are two powerheads, a tank pump for the sump filter, lighting ( which I have not yet addressed, design wise), a power strip or box, and the "ingredients" for a decent 3D background...

Thoughts, comments, or recommendations are most welcome !

Thanks,

Rich
 
The substrate you plan to use (sand/over clay) will be fine. I do the same in my tanks. After collecting the sand/gravel from the river I let it dry out completely before I use it.
 
That sounds like its gonna be an incredible tank, I soaked my driftwood in saltwater for a couple of weeks (changing the water every 3 days) and then left it out in the rain (it was spring) on a tarp on the back porch for a couple of days and it worked fine. My only suggestions would be to add some Pygmy or Bluefin Killifish to occupy the top layer of the tank, and I wouldn't add madtoms or Sculpins to a Darter tank.....Madtoms and Sculpins will eat small darters like candy.
 
Call me dumb but I can't figure out how to post pics, help ?

Thanks for validation on substrate !

Sculpins and all but possibly elegant madtoms are out ! Thanks for tip, don't really want my Lil beasties getting eaten !

Driftwood has been soakin for couple of weeks...starting to loose some buoyancy ...

Spent $40.00 on two powerheads and $13.00 on the styrofoam to start background ...So, $354.00 total so far for set up ...seams reasonable ... Still have to buy main pump and finish wood for stand...

Leak test went great !

Finalizing design for manifold, considering a Change from sponge to ceramic rings...primarily to get a better flow asthe sponge really suck power from the powerheads ! Wanted much more flow and may get one of those koralis pump things to augment the manifold...we shall see...

Thanks,

Rich
 
Elegant or pygmy madtoms sound awesome, you would definitely want the madtoms smaller than the Darters, thanks for sharing; Im a really bad photographer and tried to upload pics a couple of years ago with a GE 10mp camera with no luck, so sorry I cant help ya there.
 
Warmouth, any experience with the Pygmy or Elegant madtoms and darters ? If so, any problems ? The both stay fairly small, right ? 2-3 inches tops ?

Thanks,

Rich

The only Madtoms Ive was successfull at keeping were Stonecats, (I tried to keep some others with Green sunfish without enough structure...bad Idea). I am a member of NANFA (north American native fish association) and anything I don't know from experience, I will look up at the website to get info from experts who often work in the field (they have many fishery biologist and state researchers as members). I tried to keep some logperch with my stonecat and Greens and they were eaten; but I would assume that the elegant madtom,Least madtom and pygmy madtom would be too small to eat full grown darters because of their size.
 
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