Green Terror Care Guide

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fishhead0103666 said:
“Mike”, I have a 6 inch severum in a 75 gallon which is decently active and I couldn’t imagine anything bigger in there unless it was like a rock. Having a foot long fish in a 40 breeder which is just a foot shorter than a 75 is just insane.

Also instead of pulling random pages off of the internet try to find threads here which back up your opinion.
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I used to have a 12 inch silver arowana in a 75 and he was fine, we also were just holding him for a day or two until the customer who ordered him could pick him up. I think as long as the tank width is atleast 1.5 times the length of the fish, I think it'll be able to turn around fine. As for the "random pages off of the internet" I'm using those sources to back it up, as well as personal experience. When I worked at the fish store we had a bunch of plywood tanks that were made out of a 40 breeder and we routinely had 8-12 inch fish in there and they did fine, we've had everything from blood parrots, firemouth cichlids, red devils (again, 8-12 inch), oscars, arowanas, discus, etc.
 
duanes said:
I am always amazed at those who suggest being able to simply turn around, or move a little makes for an adequate and satisfactory space to spend a life.
I have spent a lot of time with cichlids in nature, and have yet to find any in a puddle the size of a 40 gallon tank, unless a fry.
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Well I also haven't seen gars in 1,000 gallon tanks, I've always seen them in massive rivers, I haven't seen piranhas in 500 gallon tanks, they've always been in a river, I haven't seen bass in a 500 gallon tank, I've always seen them in a lake or river, just because you haven't seen it in nature doesn't mean it can't work, though like I said, the bigger the tank. the better. I must say though, that video is amazing.
 
TheReefer said:
I used to have a 12 inch silver arowana in a 75 and he was fine, we also were just holding him for a day or two until the customer who ordered him could pick him up. I think as long as the tank width is atleast 1.5 times the length of the fish, I think it'll be able to turn around fine. As for the "random pages off of the internet" I'm using those sources to back it up, as well as personal experience. When I worked at the fish store we had a bunch of plywood tanks that were made out of a 40 breeder and we routinely had 8-12 inch fish in there and they did fine, we've had everything from blood parrots, firemouth cichlids, red devils (again, 8-12 inch), oscars, arowanas, discus, etc.
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What you’re forgetting “mike”, is that the fish are only there temporarily.
Sure I can ride a plane with a killer for a few hours but if I have to live with him for years, potentially until we die, then it’s a different thing.
 
fishhead0103666 said:
What you’re forgetting “mike”, is that the fish are only there temporarily.
Sure I can ride a plane with a killer for a few hours but if I have to live with him for years, potentially until we die, then it’s a different thing.
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lol, good analogy, but yeah they are there temporarily, but it works just fine for life in my experience, as long as you keep the water clean. I guess this is one of the things where we'll just have to agree to disagree
 
TheReefer said:
In a 40 breeder it has room to move, as long as you keep it clean it will live.
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I think that you are going to find that the vast majority of active members on MFK, consider keeping fish in captivity, much more than simply keeping a fish alive. Minimum standards invite minimum conditions, which I like to think for the most part isn't what this forum is about. This was one of my points in your 55 gallon Oscar thread. It's not about what one can pull off, fish are very resilient and can and often will suffer incredibly poor conditions before they begin to fail health wise. Stating that one has had success with keeping an adult GT in a 40 gallon tank isn't something to be bragging about, certainly not on this forum. Just something that you might want to consider moving forward.
 
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Two of the most knowledgeable and trusted members on this site have disagreed with your 40 gallon recommendation.
I agree with @RD and duanes duanes 100%.
No one in there right mind could look at a fully grown gt in a 40 gallon and think it has enough space and a good forever home.
Forget biolode, water changes, Filtration and all that and just have a little empathy for the poor creature doomed to a life trapped in such a tiny space. It really is a no brainer.
It has enough space to turn round is not a valid reason for such confined living conditions.
 
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No offense but I have to agree. This caresheet is flawed and very generic.

A lot of people consider this the gold saum and true green terrors stalsbergi

The tank size and diet is setting someone up for failure. Nice first try but this needs to be taken back to the drawing board for refinement.
 
These are some of first links that come up on google when a new fishkeeper searches “green terror cichlid care”. So yes they are being set up for failure. I’m not sure why you thought it would be good info on this forum when their is already plenty of proper info and care for them on it. It appears you did the same thing for other cichlids aswell. So now when people search it up they may come across this thread before other ones and it will be spewing the same bs as the links above. When people search up “green terror care” they should look to mfk for the expert advice not the same bull on other sites.
 
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I wonder if the OP would like to live his whole life in his bathroom, he's got enough room to turn around right.....
He is doing the same thing putting a full grown GT in a 40b.
 
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