16C is just to low for arapaimas

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Well, i live in tropics. It does get cold occasionally (nowhere near euro or north america cold). The temp range in the capital city is around 17-40C.

Yes, i am aware that arapaimas are tropical amazonian fishes but there are plenty of people in my country and Thailand who keep them without heaters. In fact, no one has a pool heater for their ponds. My neighbor is the closest example that i can provide and his paimas are 2m if not more.

My three paimas were more than 2' each one close to 90cm already. i had them for less than a year... and now i have no paimas no more :cry::cry::cry:

At the begining of the winter the water temp when i measured it - was around 22C so i did not make much of it since the paimas were still active and eating if somewhat faded in color. RTC were not affected. Around January we really had cold weather and i was away from home - when i got back the water temp was 16.8C the paimas looked unhappy and pale. I zipped over to my neighbors and his were fine so i thought i would try out and test without heaters. When one paima died i have put around 2500W worth of heating into the set-up. It was a heartbreaking moment to watch a second paima die right in front of my eyes. The third one died couple of days later. The temp was going up quite slowly at around 1C per day.

The RTCs and gars have seen this type of winters before without heating. RTCs just become inactive. Aligator gars do not seem to be bothered by the cold weather (possibly due to their north american origins?). Marble pim also was sluggish at 16C.

The RTCs and pim became active and started eating again at around 20C.

This year i will attempt paimas again once the temp goes up in spring. I was looking forward to having my monster paimas

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Yes 16C is cold in the tropics. Warm T-shirt weather is 22+

Ahh, mate, that sucks so much! Those pimas look sweet as!
 
Thank you, guys, for your kind words.

The rest of the residents are fine now. I wonder if it would have been different outcome if the paimas were in the pond rather than elevated tank. My neighbor's fishes were not happy about the cold but none perished (must have gotten used to cold weather as they grow - natural selection of the fittest)
 
Eric A;2805449; said:
Maybe it would be better to have a heater in there before the disaster happend, as security.

I wanted to have a resistant to cold arapaima (like my neighbors). I know for fact that i won't be able to heat a 10x10m pond up to 30C so i need to be sure that i get a cold tolerant ones - natural selection

My RTCs were not affected - they seem to have gone into hybernation. When the heater was introduced (too late to save paimas) they became active again (at around 20C)
 
Sorry for your loss! I would love 16C here! We hit a record low one day in Jaunuary at -34.4C with wind chill factor, and in the summer it can reach a high of 38.8C. It sucks we get hit with extreme cold and heat!
 
heavyhitter;2833878; said:
Sorry for your loss! I would love 16C here! We hit a record low one day in Jaunuary at -34.4C with wind chill factor, and in the summer it can reach a high of 38.8C. It sucks we get hit with extreme cold and heat!

Well, -34C is not viable for tropical fish at all with outdoor set-up. If i put the heater initially then they would have still be alive, but that meant i had to add heaters every year - not something i wanna do - i tried to climatize them like my neighbor's ones
 
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