4 Extinct polypterus

[King-eL]

-Polypterus dageti
-Polypterus sudanensis
-Polypterus bartheli
-Polypterus faraou

I have seen the fossil pics of P. faraou, but anyone seen the fossils pics of P.dageti, P. sudanensis and P. bartheli?

Also anyone know about [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] Serenichthys kernkemensis? Found this one as an extinct genus from the polypteridae, [/FONT]Serenichthys.

 

[King-eL]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Order: Polypteriformes[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] Family: † Uncertain?
genus: † Dagetella (***et and Meunier 1992)
-† Dagetella sudamericana - Lower Creta locality: South America: Bolivia; Brazil; Afrika: Niger
genus: † Latinopollia (Meunier & ***et, 1998)
-† Latinopollia suarezi - Creta locality: Pjacha Pata Bolivia
genus: † Serenoichthys (Dutheil, 1999)
-† Serenoichthys kemkemensis - Lower Creta locality: Africa; Antarctica; Argentina; Australia: New South Wales, AU
genus: † Bartschichthys - Lower Creta locality: South America: Bolivia; Brazil; Afrika: Niger
-† Bartschichthys arnoulti
-† Bartschichthys napatensis
-† Bartschichthys tubularis
genus: † Sudania - Lower Creta locality: Wadi Milk In Becetem Formation, Sudan, Niger
-†Sudania gracilis
-†Sudania oblonga
genus: † Saharaichthys - Lower Creta locality: Africa
-†Saharaichthys nigeriensis
-†Saharaichthys africanus
genus: † Sainthilaria - Palaeogen locality: Tanzania, Africa
-†Sainthilaria falciformis
-†Sainthilaria intermedia
-†Sainthilaria beccussiformis
-†Sainthilaria elongata
-†Sainthilaria grandis
genus: † Inbecetemia - Lower Creta locality: Wadi Milk Fm.; In Becetem Formation; Sudan; Niger
-†Inbecetemia torta
-†Inbecetemia tortissima
genus: † Nagaia - Lower Creta locality: Wadi Milk Fm.; In Becetem Formation; Sudan; Niger
-†Nagaia extrema

Family: Polypteridae
genus: † Serenichthys
-†Serenichthys kernkemensis
genus: Erpetoichthys (Smith, 1865)
-Erpetoichthys calabaricus (Smith, 1865)
genus: Polypterus (Müller & Henle, 1803)
-†Polypterus bartheli (Schaal 1984) Creta locality: Bahariya Formation, in the Bahariya Oasis of western Egypt
-†Polypterus dageti (***et and Meunier, 1996) Lower Creta locality: Becetem Formation, Niger
-†Polypterus sudanensis - Lower Creta locality: Becetem Formation, Niger
-†Polypterus faraou (Otero & Vignaud & Brunet, 2006) Miocene locality: western Djourab, Chad
-Polypterus ansorgii (Boulenger, 1910)
-Polypterus bichir ((Müller & Henle, 1803)
-(Polypterus bichir bichir) ((Müller & Henle, 1803)
-(Polypterus bichir katangae)? (Poll, 1941)
-(Polypterus bichir lapradei) (Steindachner, 1869)
-Polypterus delhezi (Boulenger, 1899)
-Polypterus endlicherii (Heckel 1849)
-(Polypterus endlicheri endlicheri) (Heckel, 1847)
-(Polypterus endlicheri congicus) (Boulenger, 1898)
-Polypterus mokelembembe (Schliewen & Schäfer, 2006)
-Polypterus ornatipinnis (Boulenger, 1902)
-Polypterus palmas (Ayres 1850)
-(Polypterus palmas palmas) (Ayres, 1850)
-(Polypterus palmas congicus)? (Daget, 1962)
-(Polypterus palmas buettikoferi) (Steindachner, 1891)
-(Polypterus palmas polli) (Gosse, 1988)
-Polypterus retropinnis (Vaillant, 1899)
-Polypterus senegalus (Cuvier, 1829)
-(Polypterus senegalus senegalus) (Cuvier, 1829)
-(Polypterus senegalus meridionalis)? (Poll, 1941)
-Polypterus teugelsi (Britz, 2004)
-Polypterus weeksii (Boulenger, 1898)
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[beblondie]

have a chart its easier-Anne

 

[King-eL]

have a chart its easier-Anne

Thanks anne! Found any fossil pics of those 3 other extinct bichirs?

 

[beblondie]

Q.I have seen the fossil pics of P. faraou, but anyone seen the fossils pics of P.dageti, P. sudanensis and P. bartheli?
A.most polypteriformes are known for a few fragments of scale and bone fossils the P. faraou is the only fully articulated fossil remains ever found I do believe-Anne

 

[King-eL]

Q.I have seen the fossil pics of P. faraou, but anyone seen the fossils pics of P.dageti, P. sudanensis and P. bartheli?
A.most polypteriformes are known for a few fragments of scale and bone fossils the P. faraou is the only fully articulated fossil remains ever found I do believe-Anne

Wow! It would be nice to collect those fossil fragments. A fossil scale perhaps.

 

[beblondie]

from my stickie here http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72999

Polypterus faraou
A new species of Polypterus has been found inside a lump of rock.
The fish, which is a member of the Cladistia's Polypteridae family, is the first complete fossil polypterid skeleton ever described.
The extinct species has been named Polypterus faraou in a paper in the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society and was found in an area known as Toros-Menalla in western Djourab, Chad.
"The articulated skeleton is preserved in three dimensions..." The articulated skeleton is preserved in three dimensions and has allowed the scientists who discovered it to determine, fairly accurately, where it lies in the fossil record.
The authors believe the species comes from the Late Miocene(5.3myo) and they claim it's the only verifiable record for the genus Polypterus.
The species is said to closely resemble Polypterus bichir and P. endlicheri, which still live in the Chad and Chari river systems today.
They don't know exactly how this and other polypterids are interrelated, but they believe that Polypterus faraou has a primitive body shape and a primitive "shape of opening of the lateral line on the scales" which is also seen in P. bichir, P. ansorgii and P. endlicheri.
For more details see the paper: Otero O, A Likius, P Vignaud and M Brunet, 2006. A new polypterid fish: Polypterus faraou sp. nov. (Cladistia, Polypteridae) from the Late Miocene, Toros-Menalla, Chad. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 146: 227?237.

 

[King-eL]

from my stickie here http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72999

Polypterus faraou
A new species of Polypterus has been found inside a lump of rock.
The fish, which is a member of the Cladistia's Polypteridae family, is the first complete fossil polypterid skeleton ever described.
The extinct species has been named Polypterus faraou in a paper in the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society and was found in an area known as Toros-Menalla in western Djourab, Chad.
"The articulated skeleton is preserved in three dimensions..." The articulated skeleton is preserved in three dimensions and has allowed the scientists who discovered it to determine, fairly accurately, where it lies in the fossil record.
The authors believe the species comes from the Late Miocene(5.3myo) and they claim it's the only verifiable record for the genus Polypterus.
The species is said to closely resemble Polypterus bichir and P. endlicheri, which still live in the Chad and Chari river systems today.
They don't know exactly how this and other polypterids are interrelated, but they believe that Polypterus faraou has a primitive body shape and a primitive "shape of opening of the lateral line on the scales" which is also seen in P. bichir, P. ansorgii and P. endlicheri.
For more details see the paper: Otero O, A Likius, P Vignaud and M Brunet, 2006. A new polypterid fish: Polypterus faraou sp. nov. (Cladistia, Polypteridae) from the Late Miocene, Toros-Menalla, Chad. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 146: 227?237.

Thanks again! I've read this in AP too.

 

[beblondie]

Yup i'm there also and several other places too

 

[SUNFLOWER]

does anyone think that there might be more Polypterus in nature now then the ones we no off because on some japanese web sights and that place called Big Fins Fish store ,they have a lot of poly,s I do not know what they are Endis Bichir Bichir different region variants I don,t no.