Amphilophus flaveolus

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Anyone kept one of these before just picked up a few. Look like a barred midas to me. Any info on them would be great. Do they attain the same size as "normal" midas? Built differently? Aggression?
 

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Ive seen the taxonomical differences online but counting dorsal spines and scales doesn't really translate to real world experience
 
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Although I didn't have enough time to gather real experience, the normal coloration of flaveolus is barred, and as in almost all the midas complex, they all look very similar.The description is usually that they are barred, with more yellow, than some others of the complex, similar to A amarillo.
If you consider that it is from Lake Apoyo, only a hop from the other Nicaraguan lakes, and they are all very close cousins, the differences are akin to the Metriaclima of Lake Malawi, which in some species can't be told apart unless you have a DNA sequencing tool.

above is the last pic I got of mine before I moved, below, an A sp amarillo from a few years before.
 
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Although I didn't have enough time to gather real experience, the normal coloration of flaveolus is barred, and as in almost all the midas complex, they all look very similar.The description is usually that they are barred, with more yellow, than some others of the complex, similar to A amarillo.
If you consider that it is from Lake Apoyo, only a hop from the other Nicaraguan lakes, and they are all very close cousins, the differences are akin to the Metriaclima of Lake Malawi, which in some species can't be told apart unless you have a DNA sequencing tool.

above is the last pic I got of mine before I moved, below, an A sp amarillo from a few years before.
So I think I finally understand what "The Midas Complex" means.....this refers to all the similar CA-Amphilophus species located close together sharing close resemblances that may or may not still be up for taxonomical debate?

I'm sure it's way deeper than that, but am I at least on the right track?
 

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The midas complex, loosely means all the Amphilophus species from the Nicaraguan Lakes (Lake Nicaragua, L Managua, L Apoyo, etc etc and the surrounding rivers), that have basically evolved from a single , basal, ancestor, but due to various environmental, and trophic conditions, and to geographic changes were radiated into different lakes and over time become separate species.
Whether barred, pink, orange, black or mottled, all have a single ancestor, and at times any could conceivably have color variations that could be drastically different even within a single spawn.
 

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So in the entire MFK network Duanes and myself are the only ones with experience with flaveolus. They must really be rare
 
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