Cloudy eyes in leopard ctenopoma

Tharissa

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Have you tested your water?
Yes
If yes, what is your ammonia?
0
If yes, what is your nitrite?
0
If yes, what is your nitrate?
0
If I did not test my water...
...I recognize that I will likely be asked to do a test, and that water tests are critical for solving freshwater health problems.
Do you do water changes?
Yes
What percentage of water do you change?
21-30%
How frequently do you change your water?
Every week
If I do not change my water...
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Hi folks, thanks in advance for your help! I have a 3.5" leopard ctenopoma that I purchased from a LFS where she had been surrendered for eating smaller fish in a community tank. She came with 1 cloudy eye, which I began treating while I had her in quarantine. I started with a week of melafix, saw no improvement. After another week I did a round of erythromycin, which also showed no change. I started aquarium salts at heaping TBS/5 gallon and kept her quarantined in the hospital tank for another 2 week. She has always been active and eager for food, so after more than a month in quarantine I wrote it off as an old injury. She eats a mix of hikari carnivore and tubifex worms, and for special occasions home-bred guppy fry from one of my other tanks.

At that point she joined the tank 55 gallon with my young Senegal bichir pair. They all have gotten along well for this past month; she bosses the bichirs around and they ignore her. This tank has been set up and stable since fall of 2020. My water values are 0 ammonia/0 nitrite/0 nitrate, my ph is between 7.6-7.8 (my tap has a high ph and is hard like rocks--I drip acclimate all newcomers).

Last night the ctenopoma's OTHER eye clouded over. She's still eating, but is slightly less active. By the way she's responding to me I suspect her vision is impaired. Last night I dosed with praziquantel in case it's some kind of fluke? The bichirs are unchanged.

The first 2 pictures are her "original" cloudy eye (top recent, next from quarantine). The final photo is her new cloudy eye. I'm not sure what my next step is here. An antibiotic like kanamycin that acts on gram negative bacteria, in case it's something the erythromycin couldn't touch? I appreciate any wisdom you folks might have!
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Hi folks, thanks in advance for your help! I have a 3.5" leopard ctenopoma that I purchased from a LFS where she had been surrendered for eating smaller fish in a community tank. She came with 1 cloudy eye, which I began treating while I had her in quarantine. I started with a week of melafix, saw no improvement. After another week I did a round of erythromycin, which also showed no change. I started aquarium salts at heaping TBS/5 gallon and kept her quarantined in the hospital tank for another 2 week. She has always been active and eager for food, so after more than a month in quarantine I wrote it off as an old injury. She eats a mix of hikari carnivore and tubifex worms, and for special occasions home-bred guppy fry from one of my other tanks.

At that point she joined the tank 55 gallon with my young Senegal bichir pair. They all have gotten along well for this past month; she bosses the bichirs around and they ignore her. This tank has been set up and stable since fall of 2020. My water values are 0 ammonia/0 nitrite/0 nitrate, my ph is between 7.6-7.8 (my tap has a high ph and is hard like rocks--I drip acclimate all newcomers).

Last night the ctenopoma's OTHER eye clouded over. She's still eating, but is slightly less active. By the way she's responding to me I suspect her vision is impaired. Last night I dosed with praziquantel in case it's some kind of fluke? The bichirs are unchanged.

The first 2 pictures are her "original" cloudy eye (top recent, next from quarantine). The final photo is her new cloudy eye. I'm not sure what my next step is here. An antibiotic like kanamycin that acts on gram negative bacteria, in case it's something the erythromycin couldn't touch? I appreciate any wisdom you folks might have!
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You should have a positive reading of Nitrate. I suggest larger weekly wc's and see if the cloudy eye improves.
 

Tharissa

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Thanks, I'll give that a go. My nitrates are held down by a ridiculous amount of salvinia, though. Before I had all the floaters it sat around 10
 
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Hey folks, if anybody has other ideas I'm all ears. I could really use some help. She's stopped eating today, and I'm pretty sure it's because she can't see. :( If I dangle something just right at her snout she'll go for it but she can't find it otherwise.

I've upped my WC rotation to 3x/week. I've done a round of kanaplex in the hospital tank. New picture of the worsening eye:
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....after reading the thread have no help to offer but I hope you can get to the bottom of the issue. I hate to see any fish suffer or in any kind of distress,especially a Ctenopoma as they are one of my favorite fish.
 

Tharissa

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....after reading the thread have no help to offer but I hope you can get to the bottom of the issue. I hate to see any fish suffer or in any kind of distress,especially a Ctenopoma as they are one of my favorite fish.
Thank you for the support. She's such a lovely fish and has such a big personality, I'm really hoping I can help her recover.
 
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