Ok he is the short story..... not sure that many remember me here but used to be very very active in this forum. Have had rays for the last 15 years. Was one of the first to ever breed retic rays (17 pups shipped nationally). At one point we had 9 adult rays in our 600 gallon tank. Over the last 18 months we have lost all but 1 ray. All rays were between 11-15 years old so thinking more than likely just old age. None acted sick or quit eating, they ate and would be dead the next day. Anyway looking to start with some younger stock again as I certainly miss them. Still currently have a female henlei in the tank around 12 inches. Would be interested in just about any rays, would prefer to buy multiple rays from one person and obviously the closer the better. Would be willing to drive within about 600 miles from Spokane washington. Not looking to pay the old crazy ray prices, and will gladly take mature older rays VS pups. Help me get rays back in my tank!!!!