need help sexing my bolivian rams please

[danepatrick]

they are a little beaten up because of my german rams.

in the FIRST picture, i believe the male is on the left, and the female is on the right.

the SECOND picture, i believe to be the female.

the THIRD picture, i believe to be the male.

am i correct?

sorry for the crappy pictures. they DO NOT keep still.

 

[dovii88]

umm i thnk the last pic is the male but..i really think they are both females..how big are they the males usually have large streamers on the end of the caudal fin..

 

[danepatrick]

umm i thnk the last pic is the male but..i really think they are both females..how big are they the males usually have large streamers on the end of the caudal fin..

i stated that the lasted picture was a male to my knowledge. they are about an inch and a half. as stated, they are also getting bullied and chewed a little bit from the germans.

 

[dovii88]

i was just restating the facts...but i think that they are both males....but i would not be def..until they are at least two inches...or 3 because they are not sexually mature..so i would say both females, but the last pic does seem like its getin some streamers.. wat size tank u have..

 

[danepatrick]

i was just restating the facts...but i think that they are both males....but i would not be def..until they are at least two inches...or 3 because they are not sexually mature..so i would say both females, but the last pic does seem like its getin some streamers.. wat size tank u have..

seems as though you cannot make up your mind. it's a 20 gallon.