No Water Changes for 6 Months!

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JardiniBoy

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I stumbled a thread in my quest for aquatic enlightenment that I found very interesting. I didn't want to reference another fish site, so I'll just put all the OP comments in one post..

What do you guys think?

***pics attached below***

Hi guys. Here are pictures of my experiment. It has been 6 months since my last water change. This test results was done prior to the water change.

I had sold my red and gold aros about 8months ago to try and replicate a crazy setup seen in my local aquarium in Australia.

The guy from the aquarium said that he only changes his water only once or twice a year to reduce temp on really hot days. After spending countless hours talking to the owner. I've decided to setup a 2 silver comm and invest my spare time in trying to replicate his setup.

I only decided to change my water today because I thought it was time to clean out my eheim filters. I was actually aiming for no water change for a year but I couldn’t help myself.... ahahhaha

There are people that will debate whether wc is really necessary. But since this guy kept the biggest (4ft) and nicest looking silver (no eye drop or PLJ) in Australia, I'm not one to argue with his methods.

As you can see from my test results, I think I have succeeded on my first try.

Aim of the experiment is to create an aquarium setup that requires little or no water change at all.

I’ve lost a lot of expensive fishes in the past few years, due to chemicals in tap water. And yes I age my water and add Seachem Prime chlorine/chloramine remover.

We all know that there is always a certain risk when doing water changes.

When my stingray died it was my last straw and I decided to get rid of my fishes and try to recreate a setup that doesn’t require water changes at all.

I’ve seen One LFS with 3 display tanks they all use different methods of filtration but they all don’t require water changes. The owner keeps massive arowanas, stingrays, clownloaches, and gars. You name it and he has them.

After 6 months of no water changes I've found that my arowanas have a very good appetite and seems to never get spooked not matter what people are doing out side of the tank. Other than that my arowanas have grown to 18+ and is as board as my palm.

Btw my water parameters are

PH = 7.0
Ammonia = 0
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 10

So far my methods seem to be a success

Filtration system consist of

80cm x 60cm x 43cm sump
2 eheim 2260
Modded Denitrator

Tank size is 6x2x2.5
Temp = 28.5°c

I don’t know if you can tell but my fishes look brighter and healthier now than when I initially setup this system

I did monthly water test and it seems that my nitrates have been stable at 10ppm

My fishes get fed once a day on market prawns and about 1kg of market prawns every 4 days. Occasionally if I finish work early I might get some MW and crickets.

My 2260's hold only one layer jap mat and 20kg of ehfisubstrate in each of them.

I believe that my denitrator does infact finish the nitrogen cycle. There are only 2 proven methods that can remove nitrates. One method is to setup a denitrator and Hope it works or create a DSB.

Denitrators are great if they are working correctly. But it will take a lot of mucking around to get it to work properly. In my next experiment ill be setting up my 5x2x2 tank in my office and this time around ill be setting up a DSB.

Every aquarium is very unique and trying to replicate another aquarium setup is almost impossible. There is just too many variables such as number of fishes, feeding patterns, tank size, type of filtration, flow rate, filter media and so on. Having said that, something that may work for someone else doesn’t mean it will also work for you.

For example I've seen really nice arowanas in Vietnam and they are extremely beautiful, when I checked their filtration I was amazed that their filtration only consist of cotton wool. They also rarely change their water! So are nitrates really something to be concerned about? Some hobbyist believes nitrates aren’t proven to be harmful to freshwater fishes. This is a really touchy topic and can lead to further debate.

Tank Shot.jpg

Test Results.jpg
 
the denitrator is whats keeping the nitrates in check

he's still wrong though

the fish might be fine after a year but eventually if he keeps going without water changes, the fish will begin deteriorate within the next few years.

and they wont reach there full potential health and size.

think of it like smoking, the first year wont kill you or the second, but it will hammer back your health until it gets serious.

back to the fish,

if he goes years without a single water change and his fish start to roll downhill, and decides to go back to donig water changes, chances are his fish will go into shock becasue of the enormous difference in water chemsitry between the tank and tap water.
 
could that really be possible? and about the picture i dont believe that water can be that clean for 6mos or 1yr without water changes.
 
I think I'll stick to doing weekly water changes. Can't seem to make myself believe that nitrates are harmless to fish. I just think that some fish are tough.
 
I don't know why he got rid of his gold and red aro to just try this out...thats crazy... the amount of money he would have originally dropped on those fish would have been insane.

Owell...even if I could pull this off aswell. I wouldn't want to. Water changes are all part of the hobby. If it becomes too easy i'll get bored.
 
BTW can you PM me where you got this info?
 
I think this is OK, but just to have a peace of mind, I would still do regular water changes. Its part of the hobby and its fun.
 
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