Rare finds!

[Rpul]

so, I'd stopped off to find some blood worm at a random fish store in the way back from work.

Turned out the had a small true p. perruno (10 fin Rays)

And then I looked in the tank below, a handful of longisbarbs x spotted shovel nosed. These are around 1" long I brought myself 3 and the perruno.

I might add 2 of the hybrids are going to a friend for his 13,000 litre pond.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Nice!

I'd like to see more and better photos of the fish in the first two photographs to become more sure of the ID. Just saying. If you are sure, there is no need.

The last pic looks like the classic Leiarius marmoratus. It sounds like you are confused about the ray count:

https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=685 says this:

Often confused with Leiarius marmoratus which is much more commonly encountered by aquarists. The fishes are identical in terms of colouration although P. perruno has 8 (1 hard and 7 soft) dorsal fin rays, Leiarius has 10 or 11.

Besides, we have never ever seen P. perruno in the trade. Nor is there any known export from Lake Maracaibo and its vicinity, where perruno is found.

More on perruno is here: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...ut-perrunichthys-perruno.512144/#post-6132284

So, overall, while these may be rare where you are, they are widely available globally, both the Marbled Pim and the TSNxMarbled Pim food hybrid - we get culls from the farming operations.

 

[Rpul]

Nice!

I'd like to see more and better photos of the fish in the first two photographs to become more sure of the ID. Just saying. If you are sure, there is no need.

The last pic looks like the classic Leiarius marmoratus. It sounds like you are confused about the ray count:

https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=685 says this:

Often confused with Leiarius marmoratus which is much more commonly encountered by aquarists. The fishes are identical in terms of colouration although P. perruno has 8 (1 hard and 7 soft) dorsal fin rays, Leiarius has 10 or 11.

Besides, we have never ever seen P. perruno in the trade. Nor is there any known export from Lake Maracaibo and its vicinity, where perruno is found.

More on perruno is here: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...ut-perrunichthys-perruno.512144/#post-6132284

So, overall, while these may be rare where you are, they are widely available globally, both the Marbled Pim and the TSNxMarbled Pim food hybrid - we get culls from the farming operations.

My mistake. I was always under the impression it was 9-10 on the dorsal for the perruno. Thanks for clearing that up, a little disappointed now!

The hybrids are very uncommon here, it's the first time I've ever seen them in the U.K. or even heard of them for sale.

I will try to get some clear pictures as they grow they are around 1" at this moment. They was labeled as longisisbabrbs x spotted shovel nosed. Although, you can almost bet they are crossed with common shovel nosed, after reading up about them. It Will be intreasting to see how they turn out.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Sorry. Don't shoot the messenger

Here is a thread of mine and a collection of links on TSNxLei: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...could-it-be-p-corruscans.564171/#post-6726748

 

[Rpul]

Sorry. Don't shoot the messenger

Here is a thread of mine and a collection of links on TSNxLei: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...could-it-be-p-corruscans.564171/#post-6726748

Thanks, I'll check them out. Any information on them is appreciated.