Remora Shark

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Brenden

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Hey guys,
I am interested in purchasing a remora shark for my system. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with them. How big do they tend to grow? Are they open water swimmers? How active are they? As well are they compatible with Brown Banded Bamboo Sharks.

Justin_James if I remember correctly you have one, if so could you please post a pictures as well as some information.


Thanks, Brenden
 
Maybe I am confused, but isn't a remora a fish that attaches to the side of a shark?
 
LOL so many questions! I, and a couple others I am aware of have experience with them. Before I go all out on the info, answer some of my questions first: What size tank(s) are you looking to house it (them) in, have you done any research at all, and do you already have a BBS, or are you just looking? And one correction - Remoras aren't actually sharks, they are fish, and actually referred to as parasites quite often since they have a symbiotic hosting relationship with the sharks, rays, etc. They are in the family Echeneidae. I will be nice and offer some basic info for now, lol.
Remoras- AKA "sharksuckers" have a suction plate along the top of their head. The plate is actually a modified spiny dorsal. it has about 20 or so plates comprised of cartilage, and each plate has the ability to move independently to allow for suction. it's an open water, usually resides in warmer waters but can adapt to colder waters as they are often carried into such by migratory movements of their hosts. They (at least from what I have personally witnessed) can reach up to about 2 1/2 - 3 feet - keeping that in mind, LOL umm no, not the best for a Bamboo. They have the ability of color reversal - The top is dark with the underbelly being lighter, but once attached to a host, they flip upside down, and their underbelly turns darker, to countershade. They require a great deal of food, and in the wild usually have no problem aquiring that as they will attach near the mouth of their host catching missed food, as well as removing other parasites from the host. This cannot be considered as it's main source of nutrition though, and in an aquarium, don't even bother. The remora can survive without a host, but it's ill advised, and usually will result in the remora being stressed, and flighty, attaching its self onto anything - LOL even your arm if it can. Mainly they get food by detaching themselves, grabbing near by animals, and darting back to the host, the only time they don't really need to work for their meals is when attached to sharks, as they tend to make quite a mess, leaving plenty of scraps behind. If you intend to keep a remora, you need a very large aquarium, they are fast swimmers when need be, are open water by nature, require a great deal of food, and if you can provide a host, make sure it's adequate. Ok my fingers hurt now and I have to get going, I can give you more later if you want it, but answer the questions above -k-, thanks!

-Em
 
The aquarium I have ordered is a 330 gallon system. Flatback Hexagon with the dimensions 84x24x10x64 at a 30" height. No I do not have the Brown Bandeds right now, but am looking for a more active open water shark. And the only I can think of for my tank is a Brown Smoothound but even so I would need to upgrade within a year with not earlier to properly suit the animal. And Justin_James has one in his 220gallon it is I believe if not please correct me, so I was wondering maybe I could house one to give my tank a more active "shark". Anyways please let me know if it would be at all possible.

Thanks, Brenden
 
Also do a search for Remora using the search button, I think there was a thread or two on them sometime ago.
 
Brenden;616209; said:
The aquarium I have ordered is a 330 gallon system. Flatback Hexagon with the dimensions 84x24x10x64 at a 30" height. No I do not have the Brown Bandeds right now, but am looking for a more active open water shark. And the only I can think of for my tank is a Brown Smoothound but even so I would need to upgrade within a year with not earlier to properly suit the animal. And Justin_James has one in his 220gallon it is I believe if not please correct me, so I was wondering maybe I could house one to give my tank a more active "shark". Anyways please let me know if it would be at all possible.

Thanks, Brenden

Ok, before we go further, let me just say that I noticed in your sig, where you listed your "future inhabitants", that you had 2 Brown Banded Bamboo's listed for the 330gal... -K-, one problem with that - - 2 of them in a tank that size won't work. Sure you might get away with it while they are pups (that's to say you get them that little), but they grow at a pretty decent rate, and with two of them, space would run out pretty quick - especially if you intended on adding the other fish you listed. One thing to remember when dealing with sharks is that they aren't like your every day fish. For the majority of species, they won't tolerate moderate water qualities - it needs to be impeccable. They cannot handle the up's and down's associated with cycling and stablization, so adding them should only be done so in a well established tank, which is stable and has the right tank mates. Smoothounds can also (from what I have encountered, as well as observations from others) easily reach around 3 feet give or take a few inches, so comparatively, they range about the same as BBS', and they too require more room. Smoothhounds are less commonly encountered in home aquaria simply because they aren't as easily located as others, and don't receive as much public attention - plus they have more subtle colorations, so some aquarists prefer Bamboos. Personally, I always advise against keeping sharks, especially beginners, and those working on limited budgets. It's not that I think you would mean to harm them, or what not, it's simply that they require contant maintenance, top notch housing and care, as well as lots and lots of fresh, high quality foods, which can get expensive. Take this for example, looking at food alone, each week we go through thousands and thousands of pounds of sea food for our animals. Having two sharks at home, you might feed them twice, maybe 3 times a week, depending on activity, tank mates, species, blaa blaa.... moving on, feeding proper amounts (and within consideration that diet will need to be varied, and that some foods weigh more than others), and that you will need to buy your foods commercially - unless you have great hook ups for wholesale through private distributors...unlikely though. Anyways, with those factors, you are looking at anywhere between 60-80 dollars per week. That includes variety such as salmon, squid, shrimp, etc., bought by the pound, fresh caught. And no you couldn't just go behind the building and bag the scraps.... you'll get yourself a dead shark that way, LOL sorry. Seafood is not cheap, well, at least not if you are actually smart enough to buy good quality seafood. A simple bag of fresh squid, weighing a couple pounds could easily cost you over 30 bucks, depending on the type and location. Then you need to focus on supplements.... how do you intend to balance the diet? Do you even know which types are available, which types to use for what animal? And water paramiters, are you familiar with the ranges for the species you are looking to invest in? And before I forget, a hex tank is well, not the best for sharks. Sure it's better that a rectangular tank because the angles aren't as sharp, and circulation can reach higher rates, but corners + sharks always = problems. They just cannot navigate angles like that, and it can stress them out and cause injury. Have you considered an oval shaped tank prehaps, with a wide girth, and shallow ends? (shallow referring to the angle of the arches on either side of the oval) for example, you dont want <__> you want (__)... got it? LOL. Anyways, I am not trying to freak you out, or come down on you for wanting a shark. I meet people every day who express their desire to own one - or more, and sure it would be great if people could just go out, buy one, and do great. But most of the time, it's not that easy. My goal is to get you to the point where you feel overwhelmed..... why you ask - because only then do you realise how much you still need to learn about them, and only then do you take a serious venture into researching every aspect of not only the general husbandry involved with shark keeping, but also species specific requirements. Only then do you become less of an over eager nin-com-poop, and more of a keeper in training shall we say. My goal is never to talk down to anyone, and if you ever think I am - speak up and let me know. All I want to do is push you to expand you knowledge BEFORE taking the plunge. There is so much to know, so much to be prepared for, and you can't do that by reading a few articles online, you need to get the proper texts, visit aquariums - drive them nuts and ask a million questions, watch as many videos as you can - NO jaws doesn't count, I mean nationally recognized educational documentaries, LOL. And so on and so on. Plus you can ask me as many questions as you want, and I will hunt my other shark keepers down and bring them on board here too if you want (they are already members, I just mean bring them into this thread). Point is, before any buying is done, you need to know A LOT more about what you are dealing with. I am willing to help, but just note that my main concern, priority, and responsibility is the animal,so if at any point I feel like you are just going to go crazy, cram an animal in a tank not suitable, and disregard what everyone else may have to say, well then, I just won't waste my time. I am not mad at you or anything, just a few others on the site before have expressed rediculous wishes regarding shark keeping, led some of us on with false information, and wasted our time for nothing, so you can see how it is frustrating sometimes when you want to give someone who needs it, your advice, and share with them your knowledge, and then have that wasted on some idiot playing games, pretending to be a millionaire. SO, LOL, as long as you are realistic, and honestly want to do this right, I am sure plenty of us will be willing to help out.
 
Damn, W Babe! Nice post!
 
guppy;617103; said:
Damn, W Babe! Nice post!

LOL I tell it like it is. I may be selective on what I reply to, thus being the reason I don't have a 1,000,000 posts by now, lol, but when I do reply, you know I give long answers, lol - bad habit I guess.:D
 
Long answer are great as long as they are not long BS, continue on please WB!
 
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