Seachem Alkaline Buffer kills

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1st off... to mods. - i wasnt too sure where to put this thread since it has information regarding plecos and planted tanks. so i apologize if this is the wrong spot and move thread accordingly.

anyways, i just recently found interest in planted tanks and decided to set one up a few months back. really got involved with it just recently, so the whole water chemistry science behind planted tanks made me want to play around and get it right. im a noob at planted tanks is pretty much what im trying to say. my goal was to get raise my Kh, lower my pH, and lower my gH. found a lot of good reviews on seachem alkaline buffer and acid buffer. went out and got it so that i can adjust my water chemistry to what i wanted.

on the seachem alkaline buffer bottle it reads "It may be added directly to the aquarium at any time." so cool, lets go raise my kH since my test readings were really low (3 drops on API test, which is roughly 53ppm) i wanted to bump it up just a little bit so i added the recommended dose on the bottle, which reads "Use 7g (1 level teaspoon) for every 40L (10 gallons) daily until desired pH is reached (this dose raises alkalinity by about 2meq/L)

while i was dosing the buffer my L47 decided to run into the one area that i was dosing. at first i didnt think it would really mess him up since the bottle did say it was okay to dose the tank directly anytime. plus the L47 didnt even bother leaving the location until after 5 mins of me dosing the tank. he swam away quite slower than usual. i didnt think anything of it, until an hour later. i looked at the tank to see the L47 sucking on the side of the glass and next thing you know he losted suction and flopped over sideways. i thought it was funny at first and he was just playing around. tapped the glass to see if he would move, but he stayed. thats when i realized something bad is going to happen. by morning he flipped himself right side up, but was still in the same area. still breathing... went to work and came back to find him dead.

sorry for the long story, but i realized it was my careless mistake. did my research on some other planted forums afterwards and they say to never mess with those things. lesson learned, but i just wanted to inform everyone else about my experience and the label isnt 100% true. my other fish are doing fine... but what if other fish were to swim by while i was dosing.
 
Always an idea to do any med's or anything else diltuted in a waterchange. Sorry for your loss. Personally I don't like buffers at all.
 
Sorry for you loss. I use Seachem Neutral Regulator on all my tanks cause my PH is extremely high out of the tap. When I do water changes I fill up a large plastic barrel and get my water where it needs to be. Then I have a mounted air pump and I turn it on for 20 mins. and then test the water one last time. Then I run the hose to my tank and plug in my sub. pump and wait. I never add any chemical straight to my tanks unless it is meds. I like the buffer cause it keeps my ph stable until the next WC. I know some buffers will kill plants too but not sure about Seachems.

Were your nitrites, nitrates, and ammonia ok?
 
titansfever83;1420035; said:
Sorry for you loss. I use Seachem Neutral Regulator on all my tanks cause my PH is extremely high out of the tap. When I do water changes I fill up a large plastic barrel and get my water where it needs to be. Then I have a mounted air pump and I turn it on for 20 mins. and then test the water one last time. Then I run the hose to my tank and plug in my sub. pump and wait. I never add any chemical straight to my tanks unless it is meds. I like the buffer cause it keeps my ph stable until the next WC. I know some buffers will kill plants too but not sure about Seachems.

Were your nitrites, nitrates, and ammonia ok?

yeah everything was fine. just the pH and kH was messed around with. i think since the L47 got a wiff of the buffer... that concentrated area probably had a high level of kH and the pH was off the charts. it was in the weeeee hours of the night and i was getting ready to sleep when i dosed the tank. i guess the kid inside me got the best of me.

also found out adding buffers add to your TDS, so im not sure your worried about that titansfever83
 
Buffers can swing and change your pH around too much... Most things will adapt to a steady pH unless your water is completely one sided.
 
I know this is an old thread but what the hey.

I think either Seachem Neutral Regulator, Discus Buffer, of Equilibrium has killed my shrimp. I suggest this because shrimp of three different species have slowly died off, one species after the other and I decided to put my ph at 6.4, which requires what seems like a lot of Discus Buffer in addition to one regular measure of Neutral Regulator. I once massively OD'd a tank with Neutral Regulator and the shrimp died off faster than now but still over a period of a couple of weeks, one at a time. Also, most of my plants developed white, distorted growing tips and only recovered when I finally did a water change by branching.

Anyhow my invert tank is shrimpless and my scuds all died too but no other inverts died and I really want to figure this one out because I want to use the invert tank to grow out juvie CPDs, which will feed on little stuff like cyclopses that teem in my tank but I don't want to endanger them. I also want to breed shrimp and that's hard when your livestock dies!

Ideas? Anyone heard of Neutral Regulator poisoning?
 
Good to know because i have been using the same buffer for my discus tank. time to rethink the process
 
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