Sexing green terrors/gold Saum

[Sasanne]

Can anyone please tell me the sex of these two I've been thinking the one with the hump is obviously a male but my other I'm not sure if just a sub Dom male

 

[Deadeye]

Both look like males.

 

[Sasanne]

Both look like males.

I'm really hoping not as I want them to breed lol. They have always been together and they do mating activity but no eggs ever so I wasn't sure if they where both males or just not at breeding age yet.

 

[Sasanne]

This is the one I'm debating about hope it's a better pic then the last.

 

[Jexnell]

One way to tell the difference is the unpaired fins, in males the metallic blue pattern is very bright. Its there is females as well, but not so bright.

Here is a female I had.

Here is a male see how much brighter the markings are.

 

[Jexnell]

I agree with others, both look male to me.

 

[Sasanne]

I agree with others, both look male to me.

Yes I see what you mean I was told a while back the one I'm debating about was a female but after seeing no progress with them i started to think differently