is stingray legal or illegal in Calfornia... some say legal some say illegal... anyone who has a proof would really help. saw some petshop who sells them here and i asked other LFS they say it's illegal. help please 
stingrays...legal or illegal
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is stingray legal or illegal in Calfornia... some say legal some say illegal... anyone who has a proof would really help. saw some petshop who sells them here and i asked other LFS they say it's illegal. help please 
WOW.....A ray in petshop......in CA......hmmmmmm
1. buy that thing quick and take a screwy way home so you dont get followed....
or
2. Laugh at the guy and say nice try....find another guy who wants the fine for this thing.....
THEY ARE ILLEGAL!......
This no one will ship to anyone in that state!
P.S. what ray was it andhow much?
1. buy that thing quick and take a screwy way home so you dont get followed....
or
2. Laugh at the guy and say nice try....find another guy who wants the fine for this thing.....
THEY ARE ILLEGAL!......
This no one will ship to anyone in that state!
P.S. what ray was it andhow much?
don't know the name.. kinda like motoro but with blue circles and it's saltwater.. it was around $89 or $99 forgot, its a beauty! 
why are they illegal... hope our governor will lift that ban. seems some have had them give birth in other state and still they ban it? their not endangered right? do you mean if i accidentally ordered them they will not ship to CA?
why are they illegal... hope our governor will lift that ban. seems some have had them give birth in other state and still they ban it? their not endangered right? do you mean if i accidentally ordered them they will not ship to CA? 
Saltwater rays, like that blue-spot ray you saw, are not illegal in CA. All freshwater (riverine) rays are illegal in CA.
CALIFORNIA prohibited fish species -- illegal to import, transport, or possess live specimens w/o a permit
(4) Class Agnatha - Jawless Fishes
(A) Family Petromyzontidae - Lampreys All nonnative species (D).
(5) Class Osteichthyes - Bony Fishes
(A) Family Percichthyidae - Temperate Basses
1. The species Morone americana (White perch) (D).
2. The species Morone chrysops (White bass) (D).
(B ) Family Clupeidae - Herrings Dorosoma cepedianum (Gizzard shad) (D).
(C ) Family Sciaenidae - Drums Aplodinotus grunniens (freshwater drum) (D).
(D) Family Characidae - Characins
1. Astyanax fasciatus (Banded tetra) (D).
2. All species of the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Taddyella, Rooseveltiella, and Pygopristis (Piranhas) (D).
3. Hoplias malabaricus (Tiger fish) (D).
(E) Family Salmonidae - Trouts Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) - Restricted in the Smith River watershed (D).
(F) Family Lepisosteidae - Gars All species (D).
(G) Family Amiidae - Bowfins All species (D).
(H) Family Poeciliidae - Livebearers Belonesox belizanus (Pike killifish) (D).
(I) Family Channidae - Snakeheads All species (D).
(J) Family Cyprinidae - Carps and Minnows
1. Leuciscus idus (ide) (D).
2. Ctenopharyngodon idellus (Grass carp) (D), except that permits may be issued to a person, organization or agency for possession of triploid grass carp, under conditions set forth in Section 238.6.
3. Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Silver carp) (D).
4. Aristichthys nobilis (Bighead carp) (D).
(K) Family Trichomycteridae (Pygidiidae) - Parasitic Catfishes. All species (D).
(L) Family Cetopsidae - Whalelike Catfishes. All species (D).
(M) Family Clariidae - Labyrinth Catfishes All species of the genera Clarias, Dinotopterus, and Heterobranchus (D).
(N) Family Heteropneustidae (Saccobranchidae) - Airsac Catfishes All species (D).
(O) Family Cichlidae - Cichlids
1. Tilapia sparrmani (Banded Tilapia) (D).
2. Tilapia zilli (Redbelly tilapia) (D), except permits may be issued to a person or agency for importation, transportation, or possession in the counties of San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Imperial.
3. Tilapia aurea (Blue tilapia) (D).
4. Tilapia nilotica (Nile tilapia) (D).
(P) Family Anguillidae - Freshwater Eels. All species of genus Anguilla (D).
(Q) Family Esocidae - Pikes all species (D).
(R ) Family Percidae - Perches
1. Perca flavescens (Yellow perch) (D).
2. Stizostedion vitreum (Walleye) (D).
(S) Family Catostomidae - Suckers All members of the genus Ictiobus (Buffalos) (D).
(T) Family Cyprinodontidae - Killifishes Cyprinodon variegatus (Sheepshead minnow) (D).
(6) Class Elasmobranchiomorphi - Cartilaginous Fishes
(A) Family Carcharhinidae - Requiem Sharks All species of genus Carcharhinus (Freshwater sharks) (D).
(B ) Family Potamotrygonidae - River stingrays All species (D).
Source: California Code of Regulations, title 14, section 671. These regulations are promulgated by the California Fish and Game Commission pursuant to statutory authority set forth in the California Fish and Game Code. (There's a statutory list too, but the one from the regulations is more complete. The statutes only contain the original list, whereas the regulations also include all species added by the Commission.)
**NOTE** Permits are only issued to aquaculture centers, institutions, and public aquaria after inspections are completed of the holding facilities. No hobbyist permits are available.
CALIFORNIA prohibited fish species -- illegal to import, transport, or possess live specimens w/o a permit
(4) Class Agnatha - Jawless Fishes
(A) Family Petromyzontidae - Lampreys All nonnative species (D).
(5) Class Osteichthyes - Bony Fishes
(A) Family Percichthyidae - Temperate Basses
1. The species Morone americana (White perch) (D).
2. The species Morone chrysops (White bass) (D).
(B ) Family Clupeidae - Herrings Dorosoma cepedianum (Gizzard shad) (D).
(C ) Family Sciaenidae - Drums Aplodinotus grunniens (freshwater drum) (D).
(D) Family Characidae - Characins
1. Astyanax fasciatus (Banded tetra) (D).
2. All species of the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Taddyella, Rooseveltiella, and Pygopristis (Piranhas) (D).
3. Hoplias malabaricus (Tiger fish) (D).
(E) Family Salmonidae - Trouts Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) - Restricted in the Smith River watershed (D).
(F) Family Lepisosteidae - Gars All species (D).
(G) Family Amiidae - Bowfins All species (D).
(H) Family Poeciliidae - Livebearers Belonesox belizanus (Pike killifish) (D).
(I) Family Channidae - Snakeheads All species (D).
(J) Family Cyprinidae - Carps and Minnows
1. Leuciscus idus (ide) (D).
2. Ctenopharyngodon idellus (Grass carp) (D), except that permits may be issued to a person, organization or agency for possession of triploid grass carp, under conditions set forth in Section 238.6.
3. Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Silver carp) (D).
4. Aristichthys nobilis (Bighead carp) (D).
(K) Family Trichomycteridae (Pygidiidae) - Parasitic Catfishes. All species (D).
(L) Family Cetopsidae - Whalelike Catfishes. All species (D).
(M) Family Clariidae - Labyrinth Catfishes All species of the genera Clarias, Dinotopterus, and Heterobranchus (D).
(N) Family Heteropneustidae (Saccobranchidae) - Airsac Catfishes All species (D).
(O) Family Cichlidae - Cichlids
1. Tilapia sparrmani (Banded Tilapia) (D).
2. Tilapia zilli (Redbelly tilapia) (D), except permits may be issued to a person or agency for importation, transportation, or possession in the counties of San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Imperial.
3. Tilapia aurea (Blue tilapia) (D).
4. Tilapia nilotica (Nile tilapia) (D).
(P) Family Anguillidae - Freshwater Eels. All species of genus Anguilla (D).
(Q) Family Esocidae - Pikes all species (D).
(R ) Family Percidae - Perches
1. Perca flavescens (Yellow perch) (D).
2. Stizostedion vitreum (Walleye) (D).
(S) Family Catostomidae - Suckers All members of the genus Ictiobus (Buffalos) (D).
(T) Family Cyprinodontidae - Killifishes Cyprinodon variegatus (Sheepshead minnow) (D).
(6) Class Elasmobranchiomorphi - Cartilaginous Fishes
(A) Family Carcharhinidae - Requiem Sharks All species of genus Carcharhinus (Freshwater sharks) (D).
(B ) Family Potamotrygonidae - River stingrays All species (D).
Source: California Code of Regulations, title 14, section 671. These regulations are promulgated by the California Fish and Game Commission pursuant to statutory authority set forth in the California Fish and Game Code. (There's a statutory list too, but the one from the regulations is more complete. The statutes only contain the original list, whereas the regulations also include all species added by the Commission.)
**NOTE** Permits are only issued to aquaculture centers, institutions, and public aquaria after inspections are completed of the holding facilities. No hobbyist permits are available.
wow! 
what a list, tried to find it on CAs website for stingray legality, and never had the luck. does that mean i need to buy saltwater rays... never mind.. im not gonna waste my time to think about it. kinda cool to have several rays in a large aquarium. but... i'd rather be safe than sorry. thanks guys! 
saw some tilapia names their... if you go to a chinese restarant you can order tilapia
maybe were eating illegal tilapias
what a list, tried to find it on CAs website for stingray legality, and never had the luck. does that mean i need to buy saltwater rays... never mind.. im not gonna waste my time to think about it. kinda cool to have several rays in a large aquarium. but... i'd rather be safe than sorry. thanks guys! saw some tilapia names their... if you go to a chinese restarant you can order tilapia
maybe were eating illegal tilapias
rkc772 said:wow!
saw some tilapia names their... if you go to a chinese restarant you can order tilapia
I FEED MY RAYS FRESH TALAPIA DAILY!
