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manlyfish

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i really like the toadfish

is that all your tanks? i thought you had one more community tank?
 

Zoodiver

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TheCanuck;4376060; said:
No, if you understood the correct feeding habits of moray eels then you would understand.. Taking things out of context, morays shouldn't be gorged every day. They should be aggressively fed every so often. I thought you would know that...


the double standard isn't welcome? I respected your pm as you should do so in return.

That's awesome that you would be so bold as to think I don't understand the feeding habits of green morays. Maybe you should be more open to taking pointers from people with years more experience with these exact animals instead of getting so defensive.

I have kept green morays with an assortment of small and large fish (including both benthic and ORV sharks) since the '90s. I'm very familiar with their wild feeding habits. In turn, I'm also well aware that when keeping predatory animals in a close setting, you need to adapt to create sitautions where the animals you are providing care for aren't inflicting damage to each other. Letting predatory animals get to the point where there are stalking tank mates for food is (in my opinion) poor husbandry. In fact, most places will tell you that recommended feeding method is to feed small amounts more often to eels. It's been a proven method to ensure the long term health of the eels in captive settings. It's also a good way to ensure steady growth, so they don't run into the problems of growth stunting in captivity.
 

snow

Feeder Fish
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TheCanuck;4377455; said:
Nah, dragon morays have never really been my "thing". The price tag really ruins the eel, and the band wagaon that goes with it. I guess I like a bit more exotic species. I do really like the Viper Moray species though!
I'm thinking of getting one for my tank. Not sure what kind though. If I can find one about 2ft for less than $650 I'll get one.
 

TheCanuck

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Zoodiver;4378684; said:
That's awesome that you would be so bold as to think I don't understand the feeding habits of green morays. Maybe you should be more open to taking pointers from people with years more experience with these exact animals instead of getting so defensive.

I have kept green morays with an assortment of small and large fish (including both benthic and ORV sharks) since the '90s. I'm very familiar with their wild feeding habits. In turn, I'm also well aware that when keeping predatory animals in a close setting, you need to adapt to create sitautions where the animals you are providing care for aren't inflicting damage to each other. Letting predatory animals get to the point where there are stalking tank mates for food is (in my opinion) poor husbandry. In fact, most places will tell you that recommended feeding method is to feed small amounts more often to eels. It's been a proven method to ensure the long term health of the eels in captive settings. It's also a good way to ensure steady growth, so they don't run into the problems of growth stunting in captivity.
Thanks zoodiver, i want to let you know your kind of my idol on here. Besides your shots at me, i really respect you in every aspect of the hobby. Also i feed my moray every day then take 2-3 days off every other week.... The schedule sometimes has variations but usually remains very constant. My green is very picky, and will only eat smelt. I have a schedule based upon research and information of eel owners 20 years plus. If you wanted to provide any info I gladly eat it up!

There is no case where my animals have taken any damage from each other, and why i purchased a separate 125g tank to hold any of my animals just in case injuries happen. The eel will get stung from running into the lion fish, but it really doesn't even bother him. The second the eel bit or seriously gave me a reason to get a better home for the shark i would. I love my green, but i keep very good watch over him, and his actions. I take information all day, and am very far from bold. You sent me a PM asking me of something and i complied. I was just stating it should run both ways. Some positive in my thread from you would mean a lot more than you think, as your first comment was discouraging...
snow;4379897; said:
I'm thinking of getting one for my tank. Not sure what kind though. If I can find one about 2ft for less than $650 I'll get one.
If you contact wholesalers they can usually get them as babies for 350.
SharkBait101;4379925; said:
Is it really true that the viper eel's teeth are so big that they don't even fit in the mouth?
Very!
 

Zoodiver

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Moved to marine media lounge since the topic is no longer sharks.

And I'm not taking shots at you. I'm offering my opinion about your care and some of the things I think you can change to do things better. You come across with a very specific attitude towards the animals in your care and the things you suggest other memers do. It leaves room to question your skill level when it comes tp the high end animals. Take it or leave it, it's just my $.02.
 

TheCanuck

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Zoodiver;4380154; said:
Moved to marine media lounge since the topic is no longer sharks.

And I'm not taking shots at you. I'm offering my opinion about your care and some of the things I think you can change to do things better. You come across with a very specific attitude towards the animals in your care and the things you suggest other memers do. It leaves room to question your skill level when it comes tp the high end animals. Take it or leave it, it's just my $.02.
Your offering your assumption of my care level? Based on a comment? I do come across very specific in all my threads about my animals, they mean the world to me. I never see you correcting my suggestions, and for the sake of everyones learning it would benefit everyone... The only suggestion i make is to tell people they can't toss some sharks in an outside pool with 150$ to spare.

I would love to take some more of your advice but i don't see it here... I have always wondered why you don't ever post in my thread but you do in every other thread in the shark section.... I now know your assumption of me, and its nothing but a personal issue... I am sorry for what i have done to you.

So to try to turn this to a positive, where am i flawed on my care level? As well as the things i need to change??

"So you're proud that your animals are so hard up to be fed that they are attacking each other?"

I just can't find anything in that statement. I explained my feeding schedule and made it clear that no one is attacking anything. My moray is mouthy and when he misses those 2 days he gets extra mouthy... You having experience, I am sure you understand what i mean by all morays being mouthy

manlyfish;4380184; said:
got any pics of those?
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