what is the concensus on Pterophyllum dumerilii?

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i picked up six fish on the weekend labeled as Pterophyllum dumerilii. I had always though that name was synonymous with leopoldi, with the long sloped "nose". the ones that I have don't have this nose, they look more like wild caught scarlare to me, which I am fine with as they are beautiful. I did a little snooping around online and I saw that a couple pretty reputable places had fish that look like mine listed as dumerilii. has this changed or whats the story on this?
 
Here is a pic of mine for reference.
I saw a pic of this same type of fish listed as dumerilii on Jeff rapps site
 
I got them from a LFS in winnipeg, they are a pretty good shop who often brings in wild caught fish, I won't mention their name so people don't get the wrong idea about them. They have had real leopoldii/dumerilii before so I dunno what's up here. I just thought it was interesting that other reputable sellers had similar fish also listed as such.
 
Yep 100% P. scalare not leos.


This is one of my P. leopoldi

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I believe one of the species names have been retired. I believe leopoldi is out of date if memory serves correct. The best way to identify them is their sloping cranial profile, the so called "Roman nose".

Given that your fishes snout curves up makes it a scalare since body shape is not as tall as altum along with their general pattern. P. Scalare is more a species complex than an individual species. Given that you purchased from an LFS that carries rare fish, I'd assume you have a specific wild strain.

They are for sure not Manacapuru, Santa Isabella, peruvian "altum", or peruvian spotted. They look like mine which are simply labeled as "wild brazilian" . Either way, care is similar for al species. Enjoy them.
 
I believe one of the species names have been retired. I believe leopoldi is out of date if memory serves correct. The best way to identify them is their sloping cranial profile, the so called "Roman nose".

Given that your fishes snout curves up makes it a scalare since body shape is not as tall as altum along with their general pattern. P. Scalare is more a species complex than an individual species. Given that you purchased from an LFS that carries rare fish, I'd assume you have a specific wild strain.

They are for sure not Manacapuru, Santa Isabella, peruvian "altum", or peruvian spotted. They look like mine which are simply labeled as "wild brazilian" . Either way, care is similar for al species. Enjoy them.

yea, I was thinking that. I just think its odd that it would be labeled as such in a couple places. just weird, that's all. i'm totally happy with them
 
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