Why do so many fish ignore bottom dwellers?

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This has always been strange to me, but there are a lot of fish(especially cichlids) that will just ignore bottom dwellers while showing aggression at anything shaped like a "normal fish".

I understand that they worry about food competition and perhaps breeding competition and fish who remind them of themselves are more likely to want the things they want. This makes sense to me.

However when I look at my catfish I know they are biggest eaters of all. They are the biggest threat to the food, do not respect territories, and will wipe out any eggs/fry that are laid yet I have seen countless times cichlids that act like the catfish do not exist. Logically you would think a cichlid would never want a catfish in their tank, yet instead they are obsessed with everything other than them.

I understand not noticing an often motionless catfish like a Raphael or pleco but an active catfish or a loach? For example the pictus catfish is constantly running around, bumping into the cichlids, charging the food sometimes shoving the cichlids out the way ect. Yet I have never seen a cichlid without eggs/fry react and my cichlids could kill most of my catfish with relative ease if they tried I would think.

As a fish keeper I enjoy that I can keep loaches,catfish, eels, bichirs, and other weird creatures in most of my tanks without much concern for their safety. I just don't really understand why.

The only exception I can think of is the Moanda Jewel Cichlids who tolerated other tank mates(when not breeding) but had an obsessive hatred for Bichirs. I wondered if them being found in the same river meant the Jewel had some understanding of what the Bichir was. But if that was the logic then central/south American cichlids would know what a catfish was and attack it I would think...

No grand meaning behind this, but this question has popped into my head for many years.
 
Most Pleco varieties have thick armored scales. Probably not very tasty.
Botia Loaches have eye blades. Most species of Catfish have razor sharp dorsal and pectoral fins. Likely very painful to swallow.

I think Catfish and Loach defensive abilities keep predatory tankmates at bay.
 
I once kept a synodontis angelicus with a small group of mbuna african cichlids and the angelicus didn't take crap from the cichlids.
pretty much all synos work in rift lake tanks. thats where they belong. its really cool if you can get multis breading and displaying their natural behavior of eating cichlid eggs/fry and replacing with their own.

I think its a situation of co-evolution, nature finds a way.

while not catfish there are some very cool symbiotic relationships in the water- not just in the oceans. check out how neets, dovi and nics all play a role in each others lives.

To the OP though- i think if you've ever been jabbed by a catfish fin, you won't soon forget now add millions of years of coexisting and that might explain ignoring bottom dwellers..... Or maybe its a case of there are so many other direct competitors in their trophic niche that "they ain't got time for that"
 
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pretty much all synos work in rift lake tanks. thats where they belong. its really cool if you can get multis breading and displaying their natural behavior of eating cichlid eggs/fry and replacing with their own.

I think its a situation of co-evolution, nature finds a way.

while not catfish there are some very cool symbiotic relationships in the water- not just in the oceans. check out how neets, dovi and nics all play a role in each others lives.

To the OP though- i think if you've ever been jabbed by a catfish fin, you won't soon forget now add millions of years of coexisting and that might explain ignoring bottom dwellers..... Or maybe its a case of there are so many other direct competitors in their trophic niche that "they ain't got time for that"

I have multis coming in the mail! I only ordered 4 so I probably need more to see breeding, but 4 is all I could get this time.
 
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