I know the main factor in kok growth is genetics, but will the food formulas that amplify this growth also work with fish that have the chance to grow nuchal humps like the larger amatitlania sp or pure amphilophus?
will flowerhorn kok diets work on other fish that can grow nuchal humps?
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It would could work but it'd be healthier for it to grow it's Nuchal Hump naturally because foods made to grow flowerhorn koks usually aren't too good for flowerhorns or other Cichlids.
Specialty foods that state they enhance the growth of koks in flowerhorns, is marketed for idiots that believe that nonsense, not for the fish.
While i agree in general, wouldn't there be some specific nutrients you could supplement that would augment or support a cichlids libido or hormonal growth? Much like zinc for testosterone or similar in men?
Yes, hormones - but those specialty FH foods don't contain hormones, they just want suckers, I mean hobbyists, to think that. There is nothing special or magical used in FH foods, that isn't used in numerous other brands of fish foods. Total marketing BS.
Yeah it seems most of them try to bank on some magic ingredient that no one else is using.
I found this article pretty recently. I couldn't exactly interpret everything, but it seems that any serious research devoted to kok growth supports genetics as the main factor in kok growth.
Molecular mechanisms underlying nuchal hump formation in dolphin cichlid, Cyrtocara moorii - Scientific Reports
East African cichlid fishes represent a model to tackle adaptive changes and their connection to rapid speciation and ecological distinction. In comparison to bony craniofacial tissues, adaptive morphogenesis of soft tissues has been rarely addressed, particularly at the molecular level. The...
www.nature.com
Here's how the big kok con works. Hobbyist buys into the big hump marketing, the food company is already half way home before the container is even opened. Hobbyist start their little juvenile fish on the big kok food, tank water temps at 84F, often a mirror for training, which in turn can cause a gonadal swing in the fish, that is now getting larger, and more aggressive. Over time the juvenile fish grows, and by golly so does his hump. It must be the awesome big kok food! Hobbyist's posts pics all over the internet proclaiming how great this magical food is for growing big kok - when the reality is any high protein food (50%+) would have produced the same end result, in the same short duration - if the genes were in place. The sad part is that over time, those high protein foods are going to take their toll on the adult FH, a fish that was created from species that are not even considered carnivorous. Just a simple con, designed for the ignorant. In fact, any reasonably decent lower protein food would have produced the exact same results, it may have simply taken a bit longer to get there.
I posted the following back in 2012, and seeing as the large water koks in flowerhorn originate with genes from Amphilophus citrinellus, it seems the most logical explanation.
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
An F1 male Midas from Rapps, in pre-spawn super jacked mode. No specialty FH food required.
I posted the following back in 2012, and seeing as the large water koks in flowerhorn originate with genes from Amphilophus citrinellus, it seems the most logical explanation.
The Nuchal Hump in Amphilophus
This subject came up recently and while this may be common knowledge to some members I thought that I would share some information from some old research papers that discuss this in fish found within the midas complex. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0016648075901367...
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
An F1 male Midas from Rapps, in pre-spawn super jacked mode. No specialty FH food required.
Here's how the big kok con works. Hobbyist buys into the big hump marketing, the food company is already half way home before the container is even opened. Hobbyist start their little juvenile fish on the big kok food, tank water temps at 84F, often a mirror for training, which in turn can cause a gonadal swing in the fish, that is now getting larger, and more aggressive. Over time the juvenile fish grows, and by golly so does his hump. It must be the awesome big kok food! Hobbyist's posts pics all over the internet proclaiming how great this magical food is for growing big kok - when the reality is any high protein food (50%+) would have produced the same end result, in the same short duration - if the genes were in place. The sad part is that over time, those high protein foods are going to take their toll on the adult FH, a fish that was created from species that are not even considered carnivorous. Just a simple con, designed for the ignorant. In fact, any reasonably decent lower protein food would have produced the exact same results, it may have simply taken a bit longer to get there.
I posted the following back in 2012, and seeing as the large water koks in flowerhorn originate with genes from Amphilophus citrinellus, it seems the most logical explanation.
The Nuchal Hump in Amphilophus
This subject came up recently and while this may be common knowledge to some members I thought that I would share some information from some old research papers that discuss this in fish found within the midas complex. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0016648075901367...
An F1 male Midas from Rapps, in pre-spawn super jacked mode. No specialty FH food required.
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When fish gets a big hump they praise the food, when it doesn't they blame genetics.