bumble bee grouper

[guppy]

Indonesia, the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon and New Ireland Islands.

 

[rkc772]

Unfortunately you are wrong,
the groupers are part of the family Serranidae, almost all are salt water but a few are brackish, some spend part of their time in freshwater, and one is a freshwater to brackish water fish and (as far as I know) has never been found in full seawater. It is the white-dotted grouper (Epinephalus polystigma), it is an attractive fish that I have never seen sold, pity, becuase it would be perfect, getting to a max of just under 16" and breeding in brackish and freshwater as small as 8" long. here is a picture by Randall.

The Bumblebee grouper is a huge and rather unattractive fish as an adult and has been recorded at around 10' long and 800 lbs. Keeping them in freshwater lowers there resistance to disease and I have found no records of them reaching any where near maturity in FW, they seem to requie more and more salt as they age and by the time they are 4-5' long (in the wild) they are solitary hunters near reef systems. IMO they are not a good choice for private fish keepers.

i agree with you! bumble bee grouper or queensland grouper are too big and they do loose the yellow color once they grow big (as in big). but an 18 inch one will still have the color. i just wish they won't grow too big but they do. i would buy them because they are beautiful for the time being.

 

[davo]

Indonesia, the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon and New Ireland Islands.

damn it, to far for me to go fishing for one! ahwell. maybe if enough interest is shown, maybe someone will get one in

 

[guppy]

I know they are just fish, and you can always eat it, but keeping them when they are small, knowing that they will die young, strikes me a bit like drowning kittens when they are no longer cute.

On the other hand I like keeping american eels knowing that they will never mature, let alone breed in a FW tank. Oh well, I guess I am not very consistent, heheh.

 

[rkc772]

is their any way we can change it not to grow bigger than 10 inches to keep it nice and fun. "guppy" do you mean it will have a shorter lifespan if changed to fresh water? i like colorful fishes and some predatorial fishes are just not too colorful for me. not to derail this but yellow on fish is really nice or super red arowana (nah.. illegal.. i'll keep my distance).

 

[davo]

I know they are just fish, and you can always eat it, but keeping them when they are small, knowing that they will die young, strikes me a bit like drowning kittens when they are no longer cute.

good one

ive got to say, as beautiful as they look when young, i do disagree with converted fish, and it always seem that people want to convert saltwater to fw, as its more convinient. the worst is morays. i feel sorry for them

 

[rhinod56]

can't answer the salt portion, but I must say after looking around, that seems like a really good price..

 

[guppy]

is their any way we can change it not to grow bigger than 10 inches to keep it nice and fun. "guppy" do you mean it will have a shorter lifespan if changed to fresh water? i like colorful fishes and some predatorial fishes are just not too colorful for me. not to derail this but yellow on fish is really nice or super red arowana (nah.. illegal.. i'll keep my distance).

I mean that I have never heard of one in a private tank that survive more than a couple years or got bigger than 2'. I also mean that I think that out of the few I have heard of people aquiring over the last year they are also now dead. There maybe exceptions but not many.

 

[rkc772]

ok... at least now we know. it's really nice to have them. but spending $$$ for one fish and not being able to survive in it's full term. i think that doesn't sound right to have one. just leave them in the wild.

 

[davo]

so.....

anyone in Indonesia, the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon and New Ireland Islands want to catch me the white dotted grouper?