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Round 1 = Bifuran (complete)
Round 2 = Formalin (in progress)
Round 3 = Metro/Prazi (not started and only precautionary)

If this doesn't work I will go the oxolinic acid route but want to avoid that if possible.
Justin .........None of the above are going to work to treat what is commonly referred to as black spot disease. (in freshwater fish)


You are needlessly subjecting your fish to harsh meds that can have adverse effects on the health & well being of your fish, and the last thing that you want to be doing to a fish with this condition is stressing it further. (read more on that below) As I explained to you when you first got these fish, there is no real treatment, you have to simply wait it out & make sure that the cycle cannot repeat itself. (do not keep snails with infected fish)

Perhaps reading some of this again will help............

The "Noga" mentioned in the excerpt below would be Dr. Edward J. Noga, MS, DVM, a highly respected professor of aquatic medicine and immunology, that has been published approx 150 times in related papers/journals. His lab at NC State University specializes in the study of infectious diseases of finfish and shellfish.


According to Noga, if the fish has "black spot disease" there is no OTC treatment for the metacercaria (which are not in themselves lethal). They will simply "come out" of the cysts.

If there are no snails or copepods around, that is the end of the line. However, while the metacercaria are there, they can cause an immune reaction, which can be hard on the fish. If/when the metacercaria come out, they leave behind a hole that can get infected with bacteria and/or bleed. That is a danger to the fish. Salt in the water helps healing and increases production of the slime coat. Frequent water changes dilute out any possible infectious bacteria and supports the immune system. The key for fish survival (if they do not bleed to death from the holes) is a good immune system.

Black Spot is due to the metacercarian stage of a parasite with a complex life cycle called a "digenean" trematode . The "black spot" is caused by the metacercaria encysted under the skin which irritates the melanocytes of the fish tissue, causing the dark spot.

As long as it is under the skin, it is impervious from outside.

HTH, good luck with your fish.
 

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Justin, I searched your threads and don't see any recent updates on the mapiritensis. They doing ok?


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Justin .........None of the above are going to work to treat what is commonly referred to as black spot disease. (in freshwater fish)


You are needlessly subjecting your fish to harsh meds that can have adverse effects on the health & well being of your fish, and the last thing that you want to be doing to a fish with this condition is stressing it further. (read more on that below) As I explained to you when you first got these fish, there is no real treatment, you have to simply wait it out & make sure that the cycle cannot repeat itself. (do not keep snails with infected fish)

Perhaps reading some of this again will help............

The "Noga" mentioned in the excerpt below would be Dr. Edward J. Noga, MS, DVM, a highly respected professor of aquatic medicine and immunology, that has been published approx 150 times in related papers/journals. His lab at NC State University specializes in the study of infectious diseases of finfish and shellfish.





HTH, good luck with your fish.
I'm sorry I never responded to this Neil! You are always so helpful. Your one of the few members who actually back up the advice they dish out with quotes and source material on the topic. Thanks for taking the time to do that it much appreciated.

Justin, I searched your threads and don't see any recent updates on the mapiritensis. They doing ok?
Sorry for the late reply Paul, I haven't been keeping up with my threads lately but will try and get back at it soon. Short story is they have bulked up a lot and are doing well. I will post up an update thread on them as soon as I can.
 

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No problem Justin, glad to hear that they are doing well! :)
 
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