One of the coolest Severum'Red Tiger Severum'

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Beautiful fish. How large are they right now? I bought some F0 severums a few months ago and they are in the 3-4" range right now. Also nice coloring, but none of the red along the gill area like yours as far as I can tell. Very cool.

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Seiichi Hamada

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I'm very excited because I have a group coming on Monday. :D My only concern is that no females made it in the import. As you see from your pictures, all the fish have facial patterns which is usually a sign of male fish. In talking with Oliver, all of his fish had facial stripes too. If there are no females we probably will not be able to breed them. Do you have any fish in your group with solid faces that appear to be females?
Here are 2 pics of the female posted on FB of German guy.
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Oliver told me he sent only 3 male to German and the female is the ones which collected by old German guy at Rio Carare ( tributary of Rio Casiquare) years ago.
Original true Heros Severus was collected at Rio Casiquare .

I'm not sure that Oliver sent only males really though.

As for the short vertical bar , I confirmed there are 2 species which shows at least.

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This is is a female
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I believe the above 3 fished may not be Heros sp.Inirida

the following pic is the reason .
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Ivan Mikolji was solo VZ exporter and now he seems to photograph in natural habitat.
At least he should not have taken this pic in Rio Inrida,Colombia.

This is the male pic of Heros sp.Inirida from Daz description
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This fish doesn't have a shorter var.

The female pics of German look like Heros sp.Inirida type to me.

A couple days ago, one Japanese importer got some as new batch.
if I found a typical female type, I will post here.

seiichi

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All of the Heros sp. Inirida I have seen in the U.S. have eight bars like rotkeils, rather than nine like other efasciatus types. They also have red spots but no red neck. Do the habitats of this new fish and Inirida overlap? It's possible that the Inirida and "red tigers" show similar traits if they come from similar areas. Maybe as they've spread out through Venezuela and Colombia they've evolved as geographical variants...
 

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Not a fan of the "red tiger" moniker. There's already a "red tiger" cichlid in the hobby. It can only help to muddle things more...
 

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^ It's only a descriptive name that Oliver gave it. They are actually listed as Heros sp. 'Curare' and potentially the real Heros severus based on the original description of the species. The description states that the fish were caught in Colombia and Venezuela and they have a partial 7th bar that runs from the middle of the fish down into the anal fin. This is the only severum that consistently matches that description.

If that's the case, I guess the mouthbrooding Heros severus (which appears in the same rivers and were also in Oliver's import) should now be something like Heros sp. 'mouthbrooder'?

At any rate, it's confusing and exciting. The Heros genus is a mess. lol
 

Seiichi Hamada

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^ It's only a descriptive name that Oliver gave it. They are actually listed as Heros sp. 'Curare' and potentially the real Heros severus based on the original description of the species. The description states that the fish were caught in Colombia and Venezuela and they have a partial 7th bar that runs from the middle of the fish down into the anal fin. This is the only severum that consistently matches that description.

If that's the case, I guess the mouthbrooding Heros severus (which appears in the same rivers and were also in Oliver's import) should now be something like Heros sp. 'mouthbrooder'?

At any rate, it's confusing and exciting. The Heros genus is a mess. lol
you didn't hear Oliver got a mouth brooder Heros(AKA H.severus in the hobby)?
He got some mouth brooder Heros in the second batch.
He seemed to be confusing. But we agreed each other this species should be a open brooder.
I have just confirmed all ones imported to Japan have a facial pattern.
It's so funny...
BTW, all of mine are from Oliver.
 
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