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Redtail Catfish
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Probly a pale pink is more likely than yellow. As far as show piece it's a matter of opinion given it's not particularly in a breeding tank. What would you consider it to be with out being so vague?
You've bred and raised many faders have you? All of the outer edges of this fish are very light and I see no evidence of any possibility of it fading to a darker shade. If this is a parrot cross (I think it is) than the main color influence that will occur during fading will be from a parrot and that color will be very light and likely yellow judging by the displayed base color of this fish. Just because there is pink on the gills of this fish doesn't mean that's what it will be.
I consider this fish to be nothing but a cross of A x B. There is nothing you can call it and there is no similarity to anything that is an established strain. I'm not being any more vague than a fish like this requires. You can call it a super mega rose queen king kong parrot A++++ sunshine Red dragon chicken god of lightning, but it ain't so. It is merely a cross of two fish. Maybe somebody had something in mind when breeding the parents. My guess is the seagrest or whoever heard hell yea we can make Red texas and kamfa flowerhorn and sell the heck out of them it's so easy and all the fry will be cool. Not the case but people are buying them.
 
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You've bred and raised many faders have you? All of the outer edges of this fish are very light and I see no evidence of any possibility of it fading to a darker shade. If this is a parrot cross (I think it is) than the main color influence that will occur during fading will be from a parrot and that color will be very light and likely yellow judging by the displayed base color of this fish. Just because there is pink on the gills of this fish doesn't mean that's what it will be.
I consider this fish to be nothing but a cross of A x B. There is nothing you can call it and there is no similarity to anything that is an established strain. I'm not being any more vague than a fish like this requires. You can call it a super mega rose queen king kong parrot A++++ sunshine Red dragon chicken god of lightning, but it ain't so. It is merely a cross of two fish. Maybe somebody had something in mind when breeding the parents. My guess is the seagrest or whoever heard hell yea we can make Red texas and kamfa flowerhorn and sell the heck out of them it's so easy and all the fry will be cool. Not the case but people are buying them.
So what your saying is you have a one sided opinion directed by pessimism and the lack of being able to mentally engineer a product of two hybrids or flowerhorn. Not to offend or anything.
 

Aquatic Aggression

Redtail Catfish
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What I am saying is that this is likely a product of two hybrids, or a product of a pure fish x a hybrid, or at the very least a fish used to make a commonly bred hybrid (syn x midas). I am saying this because I've seen this exact fish created through various hybrid breedings. Breed a kkp to anything and you get fry like this. Carpintis, midas, srd and thai silk fh all yield results like this. You learn what to cull- try it. You don't see alot of these as adults because if they don't fade or have anything spectacular about them fully grown. I'm not being pessimistic about the color. To me it looks like if it fades the color will be very light. The genetics are what make hybrids cool. The traits your fish inherit will make you gasp at their beauty or groan with disgust. Conformation to an established strain gives a fish an established name. Established strains and types become sought after for various reasons. Anyways I've seen thousands of fish that were extremely similar to this in various ways.
 

gamerpond1

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Ok judging from the syn color ( iridescent hues on the face, blue spangling, red behind the gills, red tipped fins, caudal and mid lateral markings) a beak shaped mouth (that could be either from Texas or red devil). Also faint pearling that judging by the amount was from a Texas, kamfa, silk, or pearly zz. What would your shot in the dark educated guess be? Whether it be a tri cross or so on.
 

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Piranha
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That guys nice looking. I don't know either very few parrots, red devil, or midas I've seen have been yellow. Plus there's syn in it obviously with it's shape and color. So it's not going to be a simple yellow color 2 to 3 years from now. Even synspilum have late bloomers so it could turn out to have a array of color but not just plain yellow. I'm not leading someone to believe they have something they don't have but I'm not going to say they have nothing. It's just proper ethics.
The funny thing was, her mother was mostly yellow base colour but she turned a deep orange. Here are some pictures of her when younger and her parents and siblings.

Parents



She was one of these (I only grew on the parrot shaped ones).





This is her a little older (looking like a parrot shaped version of the OP's fish)



Siblings

From this




To this



From this



To this

 

justarn

Arapaima
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Haha nice one T you proved you know what your on about, got any similar photos of the 100's of similar fish you had aquatic aggression?
I did like your super hybrid name rant, that was funny, I could actually feel your anger through the tx!-)
 

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Redtail Catfish
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I remember seeing T's fish before those were super cool.

Trust me I have seen loss of fish but I only have so much room like everyone else so for full body fish I'm usually done culling buy 3". If the pair is any good you have lots of good ones for grow out. So I only kept ones with the stuff I was breeding for and no parrot mouth shape. Here's some that have a kkp as a mother or kkp grandmother:

I didn't take pictures of any real bland culls and never grew out many light faders. I should have but they are pretty common so no need. I wasn't being angry just frustrated haha
 
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