Dorado ID... frankie or brassie?
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So why is its nose so pointy compared to salminus brassiliensis? I think you did some quick research, and only looked at the first thing you saw... Cause that fish doesn't look like a brassy to me. Or Al, someone who has two brassies and has had multiple Frankie's trying to locate a brassy. A fish that rarely shows up, I be,I've there was only one or two other known cases of proven brassies. Sorry, I just don't agree with that ID, even with its nose being banged up it still looks to pointy. But everyone is entitled to there opinion I guess.
There's always differing opinions depending on who you like to get fish from......
Dorado are just one example. Many of us have aquired "Green Lacerdae wolves". Some of us from different sources. End result is 2 different fish called the same name. Meaning at the end of the day someone's wrong.
Chix worked pretty hard on that sticky. Lots of good info in there. I'd use that to ID rather then basing it strickly on locational heresay.
IF a pregnant American gives birth in Canada does that make them Canadian?
Dorado are just one example. Many of us have aquired "Green Lacerdae wolves". Some of us from different sources. End result is 2 different fish called the same name. Meaning at the end of the day someone's wrong.
Chix worked pretty hard on that sticky. Lots of good info in there. I'd use that to ID rather then basing it strickly on locational heresay.
IF a pregnant American gives birth in Canada does that make them Canadian?
I'm not putting forth an opinion. If the fish is from Paraguay (and not rio the São Francisco basin of East / Northeast Brazil), then its current taxonomic description is S. brasiliensis.
Distribution. Salminus franciscanus is endemic from the rio São Francisco basin, Brazil (Fig. 4).
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1679-62252007000300001
Having seen and caught plenty of S. brasiliensis in the wild, I can attest that they're quite variable in coloration and shape (depending on where we found them).
Matt
Distribution. Salminus franciscanus is endemic from the rio São Francisco basin, Brazil (Fig. 4).
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1679-62252007000300001
Having seen and caught plenty of S. brasiliensis in the wild, I can attest that they're quite variable in coloration and shape (depending on where we found them).
Matt
Not necessarily, fish of the same species can be quite variable in morphology. Whether fish are variants of a single species or different species is an opinion vs. something that has definitive criteria (although people can and do argue one way or another)...
Matt
Matt
Actually it is an opinion. My opinion is it's a franky.mi understand where your coming from, I've read that link before. So if you in fact want to go off of that, then to me it isn't either. It doesn't have the defining characteristic generally used to ID a brassy, and that's the round snout. But it doesn't have the location for a franky. But that was written what, 8, almost 9 years ago now? A lot can change in a short period of time let alone almost a decade. Maybe it hasn't been updated, ever consider that?
That link is the scientific paper describing the species S. franciscanus. And one of its defining characteristics is that it's endemic to the Rio Sao Francisco, Brazil.
Whether S. franciscanus - like several other proposed species - is later found to be synonymous with the widely distributed S. brasiliensis, is another question.
But, if the fish in question is from Paraguay...or any place other then Rio Sao Francisco, Brazil...then it cannot be S. franciscanus.
Matt
Whether S. franciscanus - like several other proposed species - is later found to be synonymous with the widely distributed S. brasiliensis, is another question.
But, if the fish in question is from Paraguay...or any place other then Rio Sao Francisco, Brazil...then it cannot be S. franciscanus.
Matt
I know what it is. And I can read that that is where it comes from as well. You're going by the book (so to speak) to much though don't you think, it's location indicates it's a species that it doesn't look like, but I guess that makes sense to you because the "book" says so right?
