My new EBJDs

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I got these 2 EBJD babies about a month ago. One had ich when it arrived. I treated the whole tank with salt and heat and was successful in defeating the ich with no casualties, but the one who came with ich is growing much slower than the other, and seems to be much more shy. Should I be concerned? This is my 1st go at keeping EBJDs. I know, from what I've read they are ultra sensitive when young. Also, I think I am seeing signs of this dreaded beak face? Anyone else see it in the photos? Does this always mean they will have problems eating as they grow? I don't plan on breeding them, so does it matter if they end up with beak face?

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1 veiled angle, 2 EBJD, 10 long fin danios, 2 nerite snails, Java fern and Java moss.
Ph 6.8, amonia 0, no2 0, no3 5ppm, temp 79f
 
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Also have 3 small pictus catfish in quarantine that I will be adding in another couple of weeks.
 

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hard to tell from pics, but if you have a male and female, the male will grow faster, or it could be the less dominate one is stressed which can also lead to a slow growth rate. Just hard to say.
 

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Nice patterns and color! I have a boy and girl that have been living with my blood parrots for about a year now. They are a pleasure. The female has been hiding from the little salvini that is growing up in there.

They definitely grow slower than regular JDs and somehow a JD can know a ebjd is one of them on terms of competition if you have one that is prone to conspecific aggression.

It is necessary to say I initially got a group of five and these are the two survivors...others got sick and died. One got a weird eye bulge first...always keep some paraguard, salt, and have a ton of filtration with these guys ☺

Tlc as always.
 

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I'd expect them all to grow really slow. I feel the genetics of ebjd are all screwed up too so I'd expect some variation in growth rates.
 
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You have some awesome looking forward new though.
 

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I got these 2 EBJD babies about a month ago. One had ich when it arrived. I treated the whole tank with salt and heat and was successful in defeating the ich with no casualties, but the one who came with ich is growing much slower than the other, and seems to be much more shy. Should I be concerned? This is my 1st go at keeping EBJDs. I know, from what I've read they are ultra sensitive when young. Also, I think I am seeing signs of this dreaded beak face? Anyone else see it in the photos? Does this always mean they will have problems eating as they grow? I don't plan on breeding them, so does it matter if they end up with beak face?

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70 gallon
1 veiled angle, 2 EBJD, 10 long fin danios, 2 nerite snails, Java fern and Java moss.
Ph 6.8, amonia 0, no2 0, no3 5ppm, temp 79f
Nice patterns and color! I have a boy and girl that have been living with my blood parrots for about a year now. They are a pleasure. The female has been hiding from the little salvini that is growing up in there.

They definitely grow slower than regular JDs and somehow a JD can know a ebjd is one of them on terms of competition if you have one that is prone to conspecific aggression.

It is necessary to say I initially got a group of five and these are the two survivors...others got sick and died. One got a weird eye bulge first...always keep some paraguard, salt, and have a ton of filtration with these guys ☺

Tlc as always.
I'd expect them all to grow really slow. I feel the genetics of ebjd are all screwed up too so I'd expect some variation in growth rates.
Take these posts seriously, they are very accurate about EBJDs and their screwed up genetics and physiology. I had 3 that lived a few months and they died for absolutely no reason....and I consider JDs to be among my "specialty fish". They are so screwed up genetically , apparently EBJD genes don't even fall under one of the basic types of genetics - recessive, dominant, incomplete dominant, line-bred, etc. They just INBREED them until they see EB babies....that's all......this is more-or-less how it was explained to me
 

Brittanirdh

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Nice patterns and color! I have a boy and girl that have been living with my blood parrots for about a year now. They are a pleasure. The female has been hiding from the little salvini that is growing up in there.

They definitely grow slower than regular JDs and somehow a JD can know a ebjd is one of them on terms of competition if you have one that is prone to conspecific aggression.

It is necessary to say I initially got a group of five and these are the two survivors...others got sick and died. One got a weird eye bulge first...always keep some paraguard, salt, and have a ton of filtration with these guys ☺

Tlc as always.
Thanks! I have a pretty large over the side filter and a uv sanitizing filter running.
 

Brittanirdh

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Take these posts seriously, they are very accurate about EBJDs and their screwed up genetics and physiology. I had 3 that lived a few months and they died for absolutely no reason....and I consider JDs to be among my "specialty fish". They are so screwed up genetically , apparently EBJD genes don't even fall under one of the basic types of genetics - recessive, dominant, incomplete dominant, line-bred, etc. They just INBREED them until they see EB babies....that's all......this is more-or-less how it was explained to me
Wow! I did not know that. I guess I didn't read enough. I read that it would happen from time to time that babies would come out blue and they were originally culled bc it was a mutation, but once people started deciding they were pretty, people started to try and breed them. If you breed 2 EBJD together they are most always too weak, but a EBJD and a JD will have blue genes and then the blue gene and a EBJD would have a high percentage of the mutant blue color. I thought they were a bit weaker bc they are a mutation, didn't really realize they were inbred.
 
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