Festae Green terror Lip locking

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I recently added my Green terror and female festae to their new 5x20x24 aquarium and I have plenty of cover and hiding spots. They are both the same size and have been divided for a while but now that they are together they have been constantly lip locking. The problem is they are so evenly matched I don't think they can declare a winner. I know I will probably have to divide them but should I let them work it out and if so how long?
 
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I recently added my Green terror and female festae to their new 5x20x24 aquarium and I have plenty of cover and hiding spots. They are both the same size and have been divided for a while but now that they are together they have been constantly lip locking. The problem is they are so evenly matched I don't think they can declare a winner. I know I will probably have to divide them but should I let them work it out and if so how long?
If lip locking turns to straight up fighting that never seems to end, you might have to separate. If you "let them work it out" it might not be the outcome you want, so just continue to monitor.
 
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If lip locking turns to straight up fighting that never seems to end, you might have to separate. If you "let them work it out" it might not be the outcome you want, so just continue to monitor.
They recently just stopped lip locking and seem to be exploring the tank the red terror hasn't been constantly going out of its way to attack the green terror but idk if I should leave them unseperated over night
 

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They recently just stopped lip locking and seem to be exploring the tank the red terror hasn't been constantly going out of its way to attack the green terror but idk if I should leave them unseperated over night
This is VERY common behavior among fish when they are introduced into a tank. Regardless of breed, aggression level, etc, a pecking order will always be established. Just depends on how many submissive fish you have when pecking time comes, sounds like both are fighting for top dog slot. While it is hard to judge from this side of the computer. If you aren't comfortable leaving them together overnight, then go with your gut and do something to diffuse the situation. It is also frequent that pecking order be "challenged", this is just something you deal with when you have certain types of fish together. It is truly hit and miss though, they may establish pecking order and never have another problem or it could be a constant, fight-to-the-death match every time you turn around.
 

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This is VERY common behavior among fish when they are introduced into a tank. Regardless of breed, aggression level, etc, a pecking order will always be established. Just depends on how many submissive fish you have when pecking time comes, sounds like both are fighting for top dog slot. While it is hard to judge from this side of the computer. If you aren't comfortable leaving them together overnight, then go with your gut and do something to diffuse the situation. It is also frequent that pecking order be "challenged", this is just something you deal with when you have certain types of fish together. It is truly hit and miss though, they may establish pecking order and never have another problem or it could be a constant, fight-to-the-death match every time you turn around.
Thankyou, just to play it safe I ended up dividing them. Does lip locking do a lot of damage to the fish?
 
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Two-cichlid tanks rarely work out in my experience unless the fish are both very passive. Festae and GT are both pretty aggressive species, I doubt you will have much luck unless you add more cichlids to distract them. Even then it's not guaranteed, but I think you would have a better chance If there were 5 cichlids instead of two.
 
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Two-cichlid tanks rarely work out in my experience unless the fish are both very passive. Festae and GT are both pretty aggressive species, I doubt you will have much luck unless you add more cichlids to distract them. Even then it's not guaranteed, but I think you would have a better chance If there were 5 cichlids instead of two.
I might try that what other cichlids could I add that won't overcrowd the tank? Salvinis can be nasty and tear up their fins so probabaly not one of them and convicts do the same.
 

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Looking at the size of the tank and the species you already have, I think it would actually be hard to do what I suggested. 2 is a bad number, and more generally is the only way to do it, but the fish all need to be similar in size, and in a 5' tank I can't see it being a good long-term solution.
I think you should probably pick your favorite fish and re-home the other, then stock around the remaining fish with smaller cichlids. For example, if you like the festae, keep that one, and get a colony of another fish, like Sajica. 5 fish, no more than 2 males. You could also just try a mis-matched community, but you'd want to make sure the new fish won't fight with festae for dominance (aka- are much smaller).
Your Festae also might just not want to share a 5' tank. Won't know unless you try though.
 
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