NEW CAT IN DA HOUSE...

[thebiggerthebetter]

Its actually a beautiful fish in the lights......the head almost reminds me of Lenticulata pikes....Hybrid or not I like it!!

This may or may not get you to agree with experts but will deepen your understanding of the issue of hybrid synos in the hobby: https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28659

I agree with the experts that they are harmful and must not be bought, must be boycotted by an aware hobbyist. The problem is awareness.

Not the fishes fault, I agree. Once you got it...

I took the freedom of posting your pics and asking for an ID, page 8, bottom. If you mind, I will delete it.

 

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This may or may not get you to agree with experts but will deepen your understanding of the issue of hybrid synos in the hobby: https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28659

I agree with the experts that they are harmful and must not be bought, must be boycotted by an aware hobbyist. The problem is awareness.

Not the fishes fault, I agree. Once you got it...

I took the freedom of posting your pics and asking for an ID, page 8, bottom. If you mind, I will delete it.

I dont mind at all...curious myself. Tell me what the concensus is....I did not try to buy a hybrid but I think the fish is pretty cool so its a keeper....not its fault.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I dont mind at all...curious myself. Tell me what the concensus is....I did not try to buy a hybrid but I think the fish is pretty cool so its a keeper....not its fault.

I'd rather you gather the info yourself. You probably noted that from your other "Help me pick a catfish" thread haha

Ok. Hybridization of synodontis :

-- done in the name of chasing profits
-- cruel, physically harms, tortures, and kills fish
-- obscures the study and procreation of genuine species

... for starters.

I too am a conscientious protester. I am against man playing god.

 

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The lake in front of my house is full of hybrids of crappie and sunfish and bluegill....I try not to catch them.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Haha... I've nothing against naturally-occurring hybrids.

 

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Haha... I've nothing against naturally-occurring hybrids.

Nothing natural about it except the spawning itself...some man put those diverse species together in a manmade lake.....coherced and forced hybridization I say!!

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

To me, it sounds that the most important part is natural. You can probably find other species of perch-like fish in there along with catfish, etc. who do not hybridize with the said fish, nor between themselves.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314730#p314730

Quoting Jools, the owner of PCF and a high level expert: "That looks like a S. eupterus and S. grandiops cross or thereabouts..."

Which now that he said it, I see it too I think.

Thank you, Jools, so very much.

I must add that grandiops is erroneously called multipunctatus 99 times out of 100. In other words, when we see a multi for sale, 99% it is grandiops. Look much alike but when placed next to each other, one can see the difference.

 

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https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=314730#p314730

Quoting Jools, the owner of PCF and a high level expert: "That looks like a S. eupterus and S. grandiops cross or thereabouts..."

Which now that he said it, I see it too I think.

Thank you, Jools, so very much.

I must add that grandiops is erroneously called multipunctatus 99 times out of 100. In other words, when we see a multi for sale, 99% it is grandiops. Look much alike but when placed next to each other, one can see the difference.

I think it looks more like Sydontis pardalis.....color is off a little but close....very close.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

To me, this hybrid has nothing on pardalis. The latter is one of the most beautiful synos and has a flag in 5 fins: https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?task=&species_id=1879