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CarpCharacin

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That shouldn't even be a worry. A child's academic performance has nothing to do with how much you should love and care about it.

A child is a child whether they're smart, dumb, blind, disabled or whatever. That sort of petty crap shouldn't even be considered when speaking of adoption.

Sorry carp, maybe one day you'll grow up and realize how silly that is.
Your opinion is valid, but IQ doesn't measure academic performance.....
 

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Your opinion is valid, but IQ doesn't measure academic performance.....
You've completely missed my point.

If I was worried about adopting a child with a low IQ, should I also be worried about adopting one with dark hair and eyes because they won't look like they're mine as I'm naturally blonde with blue eyes?

At the end of the day I want to reduce a child's suffering, if that child has dark hair, a low IQ, a limp or whatever I don't care. I'd love it the same regardless.


My point was that that is a horrible thing to say and that I don't care if my child has a low IQ, as long as he/she is happy and healthy as possible.


But you're young, I won't hold it against you. I said some stupid things when I was a teen too. Hell, I still say stupid stuff as an adult.. :D
 
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Ive been pregnant twice as a teen. Got to 28 weeks first time then I had some chick in school start on me and punched me repeatedly in the stomach - gosh it hurt. Obviously I had a miscarriage because of that.

Then a year or so later when I got with my ex I fell pregnant again and miscarried at around 14 weeks, I was very malnourished at the time and my body couldn't support a baby.

It was upsetting at the time but a blessing in disguise. I was just homeless for 6 months and if those babies had of been born I would of been homeless with a 10 and an 11 year old - which would not have been good at all.


After my second miscarriage I decided that I wasn't having kids (strict contraception) until I had a mortgage, my license and a reliable car, a good job and weighed more than 50kgs.

Now I've decided that when I do want kids I'll adopt. No point bringing another child into the world when there are lots of kids that don't have a loving home. I can provide one so that's what I'll do. :)
Sorry to hear this. My Wife had a miscarriage. It hurt her alot as she wanted a kid(s).
it was somewhere between 10-14 weeks. We already saw a heartbeat. Luckly, my wife got pregnant 11 months later and now she's 9 years old.
 
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If I was worried about adopting a child with a low IQ, should I also be worried about adopting one with dark hair and eyes because they won't look like they're mine as I'm naturally blonde with blue eyes?
Nope, IQ is different. IQ is special. IQ can predict the future of someone with striking accuracy. Not all traits of a person are equally significant, that is the point you have missed. Of course environmental factors could definitely prevent an individual with a high IQ from being successful, but IQ plays a major role. IQ isn't objectively everything, but it is still very significant.

Think about it this way, would you adopt a child, if you knew they were at the peak of their existence? Would you adopt a child with anencephaly, essentially born without a brain except for the parts of the brain that control basic life functions, like breathing, etc.? If you want to dedicate your life to caring for a child who will be incapable of achieving anything, that is your decision, but it's definitely something that you should think long and hard about.
 

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Sorry to hear this. My Wife had a miscarriage. It hurt her alot as she wanted a kid(s).
it was somewhere between 10-14 weeks. We already saw a heartbeat. Luckly, my wife got pregnant 11 months later and now she's 9 years old.
Again, its not your fault, don't be sorry lol

I'm glad you and your wife had a child. 9 aye? She'll be a teenager before you know it. :p

Nope, IQ is different. IQ is special. IQ can predict the future of someone with striking accuracy. Not all traits of a person are equally significant, that is the point you have missed. Of course environmental factors could definitely prevent an individual with a high IQ from being successful, but IQ plays a major role. IQ isn't objectively everything, but it is still very significant.

Think about it this way, would you adopt a child, if you knew they were at the peak of their existence? Would you adopt a child with anencephaly, essentially born without a brain except for the parts of the brain that control basic life functions, like breathing, etc.? If you want to dedicate your life to caring for a child who will be incapable of achieving anything, that is your decision, but it's definitely something that you should think long and hard about.
I'm 25. Have no job. No mortgage. No car. No license. AFTER I have all these things there's still a 10+ year wait before I'll get a child, I've had plenty of time and have even more time to think about such things.


Also, if I had a biological child, what's to stop it from being born with a disability anyway? I'd love my biological child if it had a disability so why should it be any different for one I've adopted?

Biological children aren't exempt from disabilities just because their parents don't have them. My friend has a baby that the drs are saying may have cerebral palsy. Neither my friends family or her husband's family have any such conditions, their first child doesn't have it but their second child might.


At the end of the day I'd love a child regardless of what was so called "wrong" with them. I've had a special needs cat for 8 years so I'm "in training" for if anything like that happens anyway. Jk :D
 

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Also, if I had a biological child, what's to stop it from being born with a disability anyway? I'd love my biological child if it had a disability so why should it be any different for one I've adopted?
It is true that they could still be born with a disability, but not all disabilities are created equal. I guess anyone could have their own view of what particular disability is worst, but I think having a very low IQ would be the worst disability to have for a multitude of reasons, and studies have shown that IQ is heritable.
 

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It is true that they could still be born with a disability, but not all disabilities are created equal. I guess anyone could have their own view of what particular disability is worst, but I think having a very low IQ would be the worst disability to have for a multitude of reasons, and studies have shown that IQ is heritable.
You think having a low IQ is worse than having a fully functional "normal" brain but being completely paralyzed and unable to even talk?
I'd rather just a low IQ than smith magenis syndrome or something.. I had a friend in highschool whose brother had smith magenis syndrome and I can confidently say that I'd take a low IQ over that any day.

There are many things I can think of that are (imo) worse than having a low IQ...


Although I feel like we're just going to go round and round here so we may have to just agree to disagree because I have stuff to do today and can't be bothered going round and round. ;)
 
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It is true that they could still be born with a disability, but not all disabilities are created equal. I guess anyone could have their own view of what particular disability is worst, but I think having a very low IQ would be the worst disability to have for a multitude of reasons, and studies have shown that IQ is heritable.
Hello; Carp, these folks are talking about miscarriages and adopting children. Very emotional subjects. I fear you are being insensitive with this clinical approach. Wait a bit to talk about your IQ. Just my two cents worth and the closest yet of my being a friend. Cool it for a while.
 

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Nope, IQ is different. IQ is special. IQ can predict the future of someone with striking accuracy. Not all traits of a person are equally significant, that is the point you have missed. Of course environmental factors could definitely prevent an individual with a high IQ from being successful, but IQ plays a major role. IQ isn't objectively everything, but it is still very significant.

Think about it this way, would you adopt a child, if you knew they were at the peak of their existence? Would you adopt a child with anencephaly, essentially born without a brain except for the parts of the brain that control basic life functions, like breathing, etc.? If you want to dedicate your life to caring for a child who will be incapable of achieving anything, that is your decision, but it's definitely something that you should think long and hard about.
Dude this really isnt the subject. Just stop
 
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