my red devil x synspilum

[BC in SK]

the female is shown behind the dad.

Actually, not! If you read on pg. 2, the OP claims: "I don't have a pic of the mum as she was killed by a jag but we all know what a rd looks like, the synspillum in the pic is the father."

I'd like to see similar results obtained again, from a syn X RD/midas cross before I'm prepared to accept as fact that this cross always/often produces a blood parrot-type fish. And actual evidence that this was the actual cross, either pics of parents with eggs/fry or better yet, video footage.

 

[lilpendragon]

I believe him, haha. Looks legit to me.

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[BC in SK]

I believe him, haha. Looks legit to me.

We are all free to beleive what we want. Myself, I am not too sure what to beleive.

I originally said in my first post that it was "good evidence". I take that back! It's evidence, but not very good at all.

Legit? Maybe, but who knows?

IMO, it's poor evidence because:

1. No pics or video of parents with eggs or fry!

2. Not even a picture of the mother! We're relying on the OP's ability to correctly identify the mother; on his/her ability to assess the 'purity' of the fish. Not so easy, considering that some RD/midas crosses and FH, look like their RD/midas parent. March of 2007, this same person had to post pictures on MFK of his/her newly purchased fish because he/she didn't know what it was, in order for it to be identified as a synspilum. Doesn't sit well, IMO, in terms of the OP's ability to correctly identify cichlids.

3. Even if said cross occurred, might be a coincidence. The deformities coming from the breeding of 2 particular individuals and having nothing to do with hybirdization.

4. Other CA crosses can produce deformed heads.......seen it with my own two eyes with a JD x mayan cross. Even if said cross produced these offspring......really doesn't prove that is the same cross that produced the blood parrot.

Going on 5 years now, for this thread. You'd think somebody would have been able to get similar results by now. Until that day comes, and it is well documented, I really don't think much is known for certain.

 

[loureyes]

I have been fooling around with vieja for a while and pairing them off to other species so far I have a thai silk with a black belt a red dragon with a synspilum and another synspilum with my fader fh. what I have found out is that the male has to be a little smaller than the female and I introduce them by putting them side by side with a glass divider. I have yet to get eggs but I should be getting some soon

 

[jakeca77]

I have been fooling around with vieja for a while and pairing them off to other species so far I have a thai silk with a black belt a red dragon with a synspilum and another synspilum with my fader fh. what I have found out is that the male has to be a little smaller than the female and I introduce them by putting them side by side with a glass divider. I have yet to get eggs but I should be getting some soon

The male vieja has to be smaller or the male of the other species?

 

[FriedFlowerHornFillet]

I'd like to see similar results obtained again, from a syn X RD/midas cross before I'm prepared to accept as fact that this cross always/often produces a blood parrot-type fish. And actual evidence that this was the actual cross, either pics of parents with eggs/fry or better yet, video footage.[/QUOTE]

LMFAO IDK how can you be sure that the video footage isn't faked?

 

[duanes]

One of the most common misconceptions about breeding two different species together is that a large percentage of a spawn will all look better, or as a novel form.
In any hybridization, some will look more like the mother (maybe 30 or 40%), some more like the father (same ratio) some maybe 10-20% will look unique, of that group some may be dull colored, some bright, and a certain amount will be deformed. So in theory to get a unique and great looking fish using hybridization, 80 to 90% of the spawn should be culled.,

 

[Rakeboy]

One of the most common misconceptions about breeding two different species together is that a large percentage of a spawn will all look better, or as a novel form.
In any hybridization, some will look more like the mother (maybe 30 or 40%), some more like the father (same ratio) some maybe 10-20% will look unique, of that group some may be dull colored, some bright, and a certain amount will be deformed. So in theory to get a unique and great looking fish using hybridization, 80 to 90% of the spawn should be culled.,

is there any scientific paper or study to back this up?