Wild caught Pseudoplatystoma sp.

[Jonathan_G]

Hi, looking to confirm the ID of these Pseudoatystoma, both wild caught from Perú came along with shipments of B. juruense, filamentosum and the other usual Peruvian suspects. As for ID chart matching with jorunals, i would identify them as P. tigrinum and P. punctifer based on markings, head shape, and marking positions.

Both fish are currently 60cm+ (2ft+) but are currently housed in my pond, so i’ll try to look for order pics that display their markings clearly.
Pseudoplatystoma tigrinum (top)
Pseudoplatystoma punctifer (bottom)

 

[Rtc/tsn]

Hi, looking to confirm the ID of these Pseudoatystoma, both wild caught from Perú came along with shipments of B. juruense, filamentosum and the other usual Peruvian suspects. As for ID chart matching with jorunals, i would identify them as P. tigrinum and P. punctifer based on markings, head shape, and marking positions.

Both fish are currently 60cm+ (2ft+) but are currently housed in my pond, so i’ll try to look for order pics that display their markings clearly.
Pseudoplatystoma tigrinum (top)
Pseudoplatystoma punctifer (bottom)
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Pics of when the were younger please if possible

 

[Jonathan_G]

Pics of when the were younger please if possible

There you go, tigrinum first pic, both in mid, punctifer last pic

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I'd probably say fasciatum and punctifer. wednesday13

 

[Fishman Dave]

I would agree P. tigrinum and P. punctifer going by the fin patterning on the supposed tigrinum.

 

[wednesday13]

They actually look legit to me... not often if ever do i get to say that haha... what i call the “spoonbill”/headshape of the p. Tigrinum is a dead give away for the species. Hard to make out with the moving water in pic 1 but its there 100%. Patterning matches up also. There has been an influx of this species in particular ive noticed over the past few yrs. handfulls have even been making it to the u.s....

As for the P. Punctifer, i have not worked with one before or seen many pics aside from old “food market” shots. From what i can see the i.d. Looks correct also. Only other species i can wager that guy to b would b P. Reticulatum... 30” or so u’ll know for sure as they change alot again over 30” into more definitive adult patterning, but again i believe you are correct on both accounts O.P...

Very cool ?... the p. Punctifer may be the first recorded “evidence” of someone keeping one in aquaria with good pics of the species on this forum lol...

 

[Jonathan_G]

They actually look legit to me... not often if ever do i get to say that haha... what i call the “spoonbill”/headshape of the p. Tigrinum is a dead give away for the species. Hard to make out with the moving water in pic 1 but its there 100%. Patterning matches up also. There has been an influx of this species in particular ive noticed over the past few yrs. handfulls have even been making it to the u.s....

As for the P. Punctifer, i have not worked with one before or seen many pics aside from old “food market” shots. From what i can see the i.d. Looks correct also. Only other species i can wager that guy to b would b P. Reticulatum... 30” or so u’ll know for sure as they change alot again over 30” into more definitive adult patterning, but again i believe you are correct on both accounts O.P...

Very cool ?... the p. Punctifer may be the first recorded “evidence” of someone keeping one in aquaria with good pics of the species on this forum lol...

wednesday13 thanks! I took some clearer pics of the tigrinum attached below... can confirm their spoonbill head shape. As for the punctifer, as of now its pushing 75cm (30”) and still has not morphed into a reticulatum pattern. Interesting to know not a lot of documentation on these guys are out there, im willing to provide better pics if necessary. Funnily enough, I used to have 6 P. punctifer before selling them off one by one... I may be able to track some of them down.

 

[wednesday13]

wednesday13 thanks! I took some clearer pics of the tigrinum attached below... can confirm their spoonbill head shape. As for the punctifer, as of now its pushing 75cm (30”) and still has not morphed into a reticulatum pattern. Interesting to know not a lot of documentation on these guys are out there, im willing to provide better pics if necessary. Funnily enough, I used to have 6 P. punctifer before selling them off one by one... I may be able to track some of them down.View attachment 1459672View attachment 1459673View attachment 1459674

Great pics of the Tigrinum! Heads a dead give away ?... my “suspected” reticulatum changed very dramatically from 28” to 34” and it took almost 8 yrs... the spots started to multiply then connected to form the pattern. The small white bars stay there and mine looked quite similiar to ur suspected punctifer. Did you keep any of your old punctifer over 30”? Really is amazing how much they change again after the 30” mark and many yrs.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I could not be sure of the "spoonbill-ness" with the earlier photos but it looks like everyone is correct.

Weds drawing from many moons ago on a sleepless night in Ohio:

 

[wednesday13]

I could not be sure of the "spoonbill-ness" with the earlier photos but it looks like everyone is correct.

Weds drawing from many moons ago on a sleepless night in Ohio:

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Haha, dang thats old... and quite crude lol... gets the job done on a few species tho atleast haha... kinda makes me miss my TSN hoard. Sure is nice to see some diff. Species poppin up here and there.