Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1
- Thread starter Chrisplosion
- Start date
According to the ”story” that was quoted in the article, it was based on hearsay from an anonymous source. My guess would be someone from the pro-life side of the equation.
Hello; I am old but not yet in a bad way. I have watched too many suffer at the end of life for far too long. I can see the value of easing your way out to avoid intense suffering. Guess the question becomes can this program be stretched out to include more than those with no hope looking to avoid extra suffering.
I gather you are tending to dismiss the implications of the story. I actually do not know if the story is from a "pro-life" advocate trying to score points. My question becomes is there a way this end of life mercy idea can start to include pesky folks not yet gravely ill???
I'm all for this "MAID" method, as regards to people who, for whatever reason, are in constant pain or have a condition where their quality of life has been significantly reduced. It's a dignified way to go imo.
The details do seem to be a bit sketchy on that report as RD said but if it's true that the war veteran, who was making good recovery regarding their PTSD, was offered death as a way out, then that is tragic. That discussion with the war veteran should never have came about.
It alludes to "better practices and training" to be put in place....no f**king kidding! Better practices and training doesn't necessarily stop stupid though.
If a careworker hasn't got the common sense to appreciate that brooching that subject with a recovering patient is inappropriate as you can get, then they need to get out of the care sector!
As regards to rolling this "MAID" method out for anyone who is simply a bit fed up with their life and wants to end it, then you'd need to go down the route of intense therapy and psychological treatment first because that suggests to me that all is not well with their mental health.
The details do seem to be a bit sketchy on that report as RD said but if it's true that the war veteran, who was making good recovery regarding their PTSD, was offered death as a way out, then that is tragic. That discussion with the war veteran should never have came about.
It alludes to "better practices and training" to be put in place....no f**king kidding! Better practices and training doesn't necessarily stop stupid though.
If a careworker hasn't got the common sense to appreciate that brooching that subject with a recovering patient is inappropriate as you can get, then they need to get out of the care sector!
As regards to rolling this "MAID" method out for anyone who is simply a bit fed up with their life and wants to end it, then you'd need to go down the route of intense therapy and psychological treatment first because that suggests to me that all is not well with their mental health.
Hello; You answered my question well. Guess the concern is will this "mercy killing" somehow expand to include categories of folks still viable enough to go on living.
I am 75. A friend who graduated HS with me has a bad situation currently. His mother is still alive in her 90's. Maybe six months ago she decided it was time to move into assisted living. She had an assisted living policy she has paid into for many years. So she moved into a nice place with the plan to finish out her time there. Well some technicality reared it's head. Something along the lines she was not frail enough to qualify to draw the insurance. So she had to move out of the assisted living facility. But she is not able to live alone any more. So my friend has been a day to day care giver for months now. If he were not around I can see her as being one of those "pesky" cases and someone offering a way out.
The enigma that always gets me regarding getting old is that the average age of death is rising continually, in many ways thanks to medical advances in health care such as cancers and such.
The big push seems to be to keep people alive as long as possible, but when it comes to looking after the older generation we fall flat on our faces.
There are massive holes in pension funds, governments are pushing retirement ages up to help combat this, and the majority of care homes for the elderly are notoriously underfunded and mismanaged, here in the UK anyway.
The big push seems to be to keep people alive as long as possible, but when it comes to looking after the older generation we fall flat on our faces.
There are massive holes in pension funds, governments are pushing retirement ages up to help combat this, and the majority of care homes for the elderly are notoriously underfunded and mismanaged, here in the UK anyway.
Just to introduce some actual facts to this discussion, in Canada, where the MAID program exists, there are numerous conditions and hoops to jump through before one has their life medically ended. Even if some moron said something along those lines to a vet, that’s all it was, a moron talking out of his arse.
Lots of what ifs in life to fret over I suppose. This isn’t one of them.
Lots of what ifs in life to fret over I suppose. This isn’t one of them.
