Neon tetras dying one by one

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So this one has me stumped…

Long story short, after the addition of 2 cories from petsmart (not quarantined - pretty sure this will teach me my lesson for quarantining fw fish), all of the neon tetras started dying one by one (as well as the cories) over the course of the past few days.
The tank is a 20 gallon planted tank. The centerpiece is 3 dwarf puffers, but there is (was) a neon tetra school as well as neocardina. The puffers get aggressive, but generally leave the tetras and shrimp alone. Nothing was changed for almost a year until the cories were added.
One of the cories was looking rough and died a few days after introduction, and then the tetras started dying. They go from fine to dead in less than 20 minutes. The fish break off from the school, start to lose color, and swim weirdly before dying. The bodies aren’t really consistent, some have a lot of redness near the vent, others are thin, but others have no apparent signs whatsoever. The school was 15+ and now only 5 are left. The puffers seem totally fine.
Given the variety in how things die, I can’t really pin what the issue is. I’ve never come across something that kills like this, especially so fast. I doubt it’s microsporidians/neon disease, as they lack any of the associated symtpoms.
I started treating with kanaplex and prazi as a means of controlling most bacterial or worm issues and the deaths seemed to slow down. My other thought is a viral disease that affects characins and cats (but not puffers apparently).
2 examples of deceased fish:
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I know if I save the rest, it would probably be more luck than anything else, but I’m curious to see if anyone has any ideas what this could have been for further prevention.
 

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So this one has me stumped…

Long story short, after the addition of 2 cories from petsmart (not quarantined - pretty sure this will teach me my lesson for quarantining fw fish), all of the neon tetras started dying one by one (as well as the cories) over the course of the past few days.
The tank is a 20 gallon planted tank. The centerpiece is 3 dwarf puffers, but there is (was) a neon tetra school as well as neocardina. The puffers get aggressive, but generally leave the tetras and shrimp alone. Nothing was changed for almost a year until the cories were added.
One of the cories was looking rough and died a few days after introduction, and then the tetras started dying. They go from fine to dead in less than 20 minutes. The fish break off from the school, start to lose color, and swim weirdly before dying. The bodies aren’t really consistent, some have a lot of redness near the vent, others are thin, but others have no apparent signs whatsoever. The school was 15+ and now only 5 are left. The puffers seem totally fine.
Given the variety in how things die, I can’t really pin what the issue is. I’ve never come across something that kills like this, especially so fast. I doubt it’s microsporidians/neon disease, as they lack any of the associated symtpoms.
I started treating with kanaplex and prazi as a means of controlling most bacterial or worm issues and the deaths seemed to slow down. My other thought is a viral disease that affects characins and cats (but not puffers apparently).
2 examples of deceased fish:
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I know if I save the rest, it would probably be more luck than anything else, but I’m curious to see if anyone has any ideas what this could have been for further prevention.
I believe captive bred neons and Corydora from Petsmart are questionable because I myself had a similar experience a few years back.
 

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Usually the fish from my petsmart tend to do pretty well (at least compared to other petsmarts), but my mistake.
As for water quality, everything’s been stable for months, pH at 7.5, nh4 and no2 at 0, and no3 under 5. Water temp does run high at 84 (which I realize is too high, I don’t think I even noticed it was that hot), but I wouldn’t expect that to kill all at once, out of nowhere.

As for neon disease, it’s possible but the symptoms didn’t really match up. Usually you will get white patches and thinning of the fish, but never really saw that. Also, it only spreads by eating the deceased fish, but (with the exception of the first Cory, though I don’t think they can be infected with it) fish weren’t ever given the chance to eat the dead ones.
 
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