Rainbow Shiner in tropical?

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I find Rainbow Shiners (Notropis chrosomus) quite interesting and would like to keep them eventually. I live in a tropical enviroment, and currently the temperature here averages around 75-80 degrees F. Because of this, I'm not sure I can keep a Raimboe Shiner. Are there any aquarium coolers of sorts, or maybe a Rainbow Shiner can go in a tropical tank?
 
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I've kept many North American cyprinids in heated community tanks; generally, they do fairly well, as long as sufficient oxygenation is provided- even so, I find that they tend to catch infections easily, and die quickly once afflicted.
Any eggs resulting from fish kept consistently at higher temperatures (~79F) also seem to have poorer fertility/hatch rates, but that might just be poor luck on my part.
It's definitely doable; not the most optimal situation, but they won't all immediately keel over and die.
They're a bit more heat-tolerant than some other Notropis, I think.
 

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I think that a species which is exposed in nature to occasional seasonal high temperatures for relatively short periods is still not necessarily going to do well if kept at those temps consistently all year round. I'm pretty far north compared to most posters, but even up here we have shallow ponds and canals which can achieve temperatures of 80F or even higher for several weeks during mid-summer. The fish in these waters...mudminnows, fatheads, bullheads, madtoms, many others...survive these hot spells without incident, but then will be living under thick ice only a few months later. They spend much more time in cold water than in warm.

The thing is...there are hundreds or thousands of species of fish that are suited to aquarium life and which are easily available in the hobby trade. No matter what your water parameters are, what temperatures your tanks maintain, what size they are, what food you can provide...there are always numerous fish that are well-suited to those particular conditions. Why must so many aquarists push the envelope and attempt to keep a given species in temperatures or conditions in which they may perhaps survive...sometimes barely...sometimes for limited periods of time...rather than simply choosing fish that find those conditions ideal?

A person living in a small apartment could perhaps keep a Great Dane...but it would involve an inordinate amount of work, and would still be very poorly suited to such a monstrous dog. A much better choice would be a small dog breed...or even, God forbid, a cat! :)...which would be easier to keep and would thrive rather than merely surviving.

It's a Jurassic Park kind of thing; don't ask if you could, but rather if you should...
 

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I think that a species which is exposed in nature to occasional seasonal high temperatures for relatively short periods is still not necessarily going to do well if kept at those temps consistently all year round. I'm pretty far north compared to most posters, but even up here we have shallow ponds and canals which can achieve temperatures of 80F or even higher for several weeks during mid-summer. The fish in these waters...mudminnows, fatheads, bullheads, madtoms, many others...survive these hot spells without incident, but then will be living under thick ice only a few months later. They spend much more time in cold water than in warm.

The thing is...there are hundreds or thousands of species of fish that are suited to aquarium life and which are easily available in the hobby trade. No matter what your water parameters are, what temperatures your tanks maintain, what size they are, what food you can provide...there are always numerous fish that are well-suited to those particular conditions. Why must so many aquarists push the envelope and attempt to keep a given species in temperatures or conditions in which they may perhaps survive...sometimes barely...sometimes for limited periods of time...rather than simply choosing fish that find those conditions ideal?

A person living in a small apartment could perhaps keep a Great Dane...but it would involve an inordinate amount of work, and would still be very poorly suited to such a monstrous dog. A much better choice would be a small dog breed...or even, God forbid, a cat! :)...which would be easier to keep and would thrive rather than merely surviving.

It's a Jurassic Park kind of thing; don't ask if you could, but rather if you should...
Great Danes are actually splendid apartment dwellers due to their sleeping habits and activity needs. Not to pick hairs or anything. But other than that I agree with your sentiment
 

jjohnwm

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Great Danes are actually splendid apartment dwellers due to their sleeping habits and activity needs. Not to pick hairs or anything. But other than that I agree with your sentiment
Okay, maybe Danes are not the most active of dogs...but I could barely tolerate living in an apartment myself, so I can't imagine confining such a big dog in one. Our DaneXMastiff lived on our acreage and had a radio-fence delineated yard of 2+ acres to roam and run...and she used every bit of it. I wouldn't have it any other way. :)
 

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I'm not sure how the fish will do long term, but I am fairly confident that you won't see them color up without a cold period. That tells them it is time to display and get ready to breed. Without that what is the point of keeping that fish? No disrespect to those who keep similar fish that don't color up, but to me the most impressive part of the rainbow shiner is the rainbow. Thats a big reason I never kept them.
 

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Without that what is the point of keeping that fish? No disrespect to those who keep similar fish that don't color up, but to me the most impressive part of the rainbow shiner is the rainbow. Thats a big reason I never kept them.
Well besides their color, I just think they're an interesting schooling fish.
 

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Kept mine in an unheated aquarium that fluctuated with the seasons and they colored up brilliantly, even in warmer temps. Certain males maintained some level of blue coloration year round.

However, if you’re in a tropical area, you can get a chiller. They are or used to be common with reef tanks when they ran metal halides and t5 bulbs. I liked these shiners because they schooled real tight and still looked nice even out of breeding season
 
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