How do you get a cichlid to become a glass banger?

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If you keep Midas in a pond, they are food hugger no difference from koi that will follow people for food. In a glass box, a koi will remain a food hugger but a Midas can mature from a food hugger into a banger due to limited territory. Mirror will exacerbate territorial behavior as the greatest threat is from its own kind. Though too light weight to be qualified as glass banger, mirror will trigger betta, paradise fish, Victorian Haps, and some MBUNA to attack glass. I’m taking back my listing of Oscar as an occasional banger. I think Oscar is too wimpy to be a banger but more a food hugger except in spawning.
 

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If you keep Midas in a pond, they are food hugger no difference from koi that will follow people for food. In a glass box, a koi will remain a food hugger but a Midas can mature from a food hugger into a banger due to limited territory. Mirror will exacerbate territorial behavior as the greatest threat is from its own kind. Though too light weight to be qualified as glass banger, mirror will trigger betta, paradise fish, Victorian Haps, and some MBUNA to attack glass. I’m taking back my listing of Oscar as an occasional banger. I think Oscar is too wimpy to be a banger but more a food hugger except in spawning.
I just wanted to add that cichlids can live in harmony and peace, much like they do in the wild—they don’t have to be ‘psycho killers’ or extremely aggressive. Training them for aggression is cruel, as others have mentioned, and shouldn’t be encouraged.
 
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Besides all the stuff mentioned above, who wants to hear that terrible screeching sound of cichlid teeth scraping on glass?
Oh, you mean the terrible sound of them literally begging us to end their miserable lives, which consists of "banging" their heads against the aquarium glass all day long, just for our pleasure in tiny glass boxes! Then most certainly not me.
 
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A couple of recent threads on here, predominantly aimed at cichlids, has me wondering whether some hobbyists actually give a s**t about the fish they keep.

I'm pretty sure that all our fish just want a nice peaceful life. They don't want to be in a stressful environment, pitted against other fish, or somehow "trained" to perform unnatural behaviour purely for the hobbyists entertainment.

Why the hell would you want your fish to smash its head against the sides of your tank?
 

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A couple of recent threads on here, predominantly aimed at cichlids, has me wondering whether some hobbyists actually give a s**t about the fish they keep.

I'm pretty sure that all our fish just want a nice peaceful life. They don't want to be in a stressful environment, pitted against other fish, or somehow "trained" to perform unnatural behaviour purely for the hobbyists entertainment.

Why the hell would you want your fish to smash its head against the sides of your tank?
Not smashing the head against the glass, but biting on on the reflection making loud splashing sound. So no harm done. In contrast, a skittish fish can injure itself by suddenly jump up and bump head on hard object when they see movement as happened to my Jack Dempsey, Vieja Synspillum and pink tail chalceus.

There are folks that love glass bander. Why do you think there is a dedicated forum on Flowerhorn in MEK. The hump size is a measurement of the aggression level, and without constant stress, the hump will shrink and this is why FH keeper use mirror training.
 
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