either way your talking about a very very fast fish that will not do well in a captive situation unless in a huge tank(300g is a cup o' piss compared to some of the tanks on this site) you're way better off going w/ a smaller sp. of fish, espcially one from the southern states where there is warmer water so you don't worry about over heating the fish.
a northern pike in a 300g tank?
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Foker! just admit the fact that a 300 gallon of any dimension isn't the right tank for a Northern pike.
You seem to love the 24" over 5 years information from MN DNR but the average water temp in a MN lake and the home aquarium is quite different unless you have an industrial chiller.
I'll just guess you've never raised any Esox since anyone who has knows how they grow. These fish will put on a good 11+" in the first 9 months of life in many cases. Sure growth rate slows a bit but not as much as you might think. A well fed and healthy Esox will continue to build mass until death.
This whole argument is silly when we have fish (pickerel) that 95% of the population would call a dwarf pike in any case that can be housed easily in the home aquaria.
You seem to love the 24" over 5 years information from MN DNR but the average water temp in a MN lake and the home aquarium is quite different unless you have an industrial chiller.
I'll just guess you've never raised any Esox since anyone who has knows how they grow. These fish will put on a good 11+" in the first 9 months of life in many cases. Sure growth rate slows a bit but not as much as you might think. A well fed and healthy Esox will continue to build mass until death.
This whole argument is silly when we have fish (pickerel) that 95% of the population would call a dwarf pike in any case that can be housed easily in the home aquaria.
dude dont stick ur 2 cents in this unless u been doing the research that i and ammer have been doing. we both have points on this issue why it could and or could not work u need to do some research yourself before u jump in with your pike expertise. neither he or i know for a fact if a pike would grow slower or faster in a tank but the bottom line is if he has a 300 gallon and can do something with this pike when or if it needs to go like to in his pond if he has one, he can still buy a northern pike as a baby and keep it anywere from 2 to 5yrs. that we do know. if it grows faster then normal then 2 yrs and if it grows at normal growth rate then 5 and if slower then 7. so to say u cant keep a pike in a 300 gallon is absurd even if u only do keep it for 2 yrs or 5 no matter what thats a pretty long time to observe a fish and get to know its tendecies.
Have you been "doing" research? And sorry I put my 2 cents in your silly pissing contest.
Yeah...he's right and you're wrong.
I just told you in a polite way that pike will grow faster in the home aquaria due to feeds and temp.
The bottom line is you're talking out of your anus......he will not keep a pike in a tank for 5 years without having a deformed, dead or intentionally stunted fish if he keeps this fish alone. Pond? Who said anything about a pond? is it legal to just chuck an aquarium fish in a pond? Is it ethical to subject wild populations of native fish to disease from the aquarium (around the world)? You should just quit now since you look even more foolish than the beginning of the thread.
This is exactly whats wrong with this hobby. Silly kids like you get fish they can't KEEP FOR LIFEthen release them. This is why all of our beloved fishes are banned. Please do us all a favor and get out of this hobby or get a clue. Do you think someone will simply upgrade to a 1000 gallon tank to suit the fish or do you think they'll let it go? You expect the guy to have a pike for a year or two then illegally release it into the nearest body of water causing untold damages to native fish. Thanks for this exemplary advise you knucklehead.
I hope a state agency is watching and shuts this godforsaken forum down. I find fewer places with outright misinformation where decent people have to fight this hard to just do the right thing.
Focker, you should not dish out advice on subjects you know little about and even more importantly just shut the f@%k up when you're wrong. How hard was it to just say "pickerel look just like pike and stay much smaller".
well apparently u dont know ur but from ur face. for one im not a kid unlike yourself . ive been in this hobby for along time. who said anything about releasing fish into lakes streams or anything and if u did do some research before spouting out of ur stoopid mouth u would know that it is lawful to release a aquarium fish into ur private pond. u do not know if it would grow faster or slower in a tank . everything u said is crap rolling out of your mouth everything i said is facts that were looked up so lets see im telling facts and ur guessing. now its ignorant guessers that ruin these conversations so u should shut the hell up and stop letting pure garbage roll off ur tounge unless u know.
heres another one for ya. The truth is, fish that are large in the wild will grow just as large in an aquarium, regardless of tank size. In a cramped environment it might grow slower, but it will keep growing. It can take fish well over a decade to reach their mature length, but if you're a good aquarist and keep them healthy, they will get there.
this site spoke of growing slower in aquaria and a fish tank is always more cramped then a lake. see you would find this stuff out for youself if u looked into before runnng off at the mouth.
this site spoke of growing slower in aquaria and a fish tank is always more cramped then a lake. see you would find this stuff out for youself if u looked into before runnng off at the mouth.
Well, apparently you don't know your butt from your face. For one I'm not a kid unlike yourself. I've been in this hobby for along time. who said anything about releasing fish into lakes streams or anything.If you did do some research before spouting out of your stupid mouth, you would know that it is lawful to release a aquarium fish into your private pond. You don't know if it would grow faster or slower in a tank. Everything you said is crap rolling out of your mouth everything I said is facts that were looked up. Lets see (if) I'm telling the truth or you're guessing. Now its ignorant guessers that ruin these conversations so u should shut the hell up and stop letting pure garbage roll off your tongue unless u know.
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Are we talking about your pond? Do you know what waters this pond connects with? I'd encourage you to ask the your state if this type of release is ethical and or legal and get back to us.
I'll not bother in correcting this gibberish but I will respond.....
Few native fish live a decade..How many fish have you kept a decade? In many cases fishes that live a decade do so due to the cold climate they come from.
Some fish will grow more slowly in the home aquaria but you must accept the fact that esox are odd in that they put mass on at an early age like some other fish but few have the potential to do so as quickly. Have you ever been to a public aquarium? Even inside the large tanks they maintain the fish are obviously deformed from life in captivity (these tanks are much larger than 300 gallons).
You even admit the 300 will be cramped conditions in your above statement. Is this want you want from your hobby? I mean come on! Pickerel are an easy exchange in this case and you still won't back down.
I'll leave you alone to your pissing contest if you just tell the public that you've kept a healthy, well shaped Northern pike in a 300 gallon tank for 5 years.
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Its an open forum for one, and I would hardly call reading a bunch of web pages research.
I would not keep a northern pike in a 300, besides the size of the animal you should consider the behavior of the animal. Your pike would bang into the wall and knock itself out everytime you walked into the room
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