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Algae problem

Hello; I still have the box and one powder packet of E.M. ERYTHROMYCIN by API. A box of ten powder packets cost $13.99 a few years ago at an area fish shop.
The directions suggest one packet for each ten gallons of water on day one followed by the same dose a day later. Then do a WC (25%) and repeat the two day dose again. So that would be a total of four packets for each ten gallons. At the time I had 110 gallons of infected tanks but lets stick with 100 gallons to make the math more straight forward.
By my count I would have needed forty (40) packets to treat 100 gallons at the suggested dose. So at $13.99 for ten packets that would be around $56 plus tax. I bought my EM sometime prior to 2017 so the price may be more now. So not an extraordinary expense if indeed it did work the first time, which it did not for me.

Let me here concede that I may be off in terms of the cost one way or another and also am not trying to make a big deal out of the cost. For some of us a cost ten times as much is not a problem. For others the cost may be a factor. To me it was more that such use was not long term effective and there was the risk of killing off the bb.

The infected tanks were heavily planted with a deep substrate. May have made a difference as to why the treatment failed. I may have made some other fundamental error. At any rate after two or three tries I became concerned about the other risk of creating a strain resistant to EM. I came up with another approach.

Things may have changed in the last years but I was able to buy the EM over the counter a few years ago in the USA. I have not checked to see if fish shops still offer the stuff.

Should I have the cyanobacter algae again I will try the RID-X first thing. I hope for the OP's sake RID -X does work since my method is a lot of trouble. It will also be good to have an alternative.
 
Hello; I still have the box and one powder packet of E.M. ERYTHROMYCIN by API. A box of ten powder packets cost $13.99 a few years ago at an area fish shop.
The directions suggest one packet for each ten gallons of water on day one followed by the same dose a day later. Then do a WC (25%) and repeat the two day dose again. So that would be a total of four packets for each ten gallons. At the time I had 110 gallons of infected tanks but lets stick with 100 gallons to make the math more straight forward.
By my count I would have needed forty (40) packets to treat 100 gallons at the suggested dose. So at $13.99 for ten packets that would be around $56 plus tax. I bought my EM sometime prior to 2017 so the price may be more now. So not an extraordinary expense if indeed it did work the first time, which it did not for me.

Let me here concede that I may be off in terms of the cost one way or another and also am not trying to make a big deal out of the cost. For some of us a cost ten times as much is not a problem. For others the cost may be a factor. To me it was more that such use was not long term effective and there was the risk of killing off the bb.

The infected tanks were heavily planted with a deep substrate. May have made a difference as to why the treatment failed. I may have made some other fundamental error. At any rate after two or three tries I became concerned about the other risk of creating a strain resistant to EM. I came up with another approach.

Things may have changed in the last years but I was able to buy the EM over the counter a few years ago in the USA. I have not checked to see if fish shops still offer the stuff.

Should I have the cyanobacter algae again I will try the RID-X first thing. I hope for the OP's sake RID -X does work since my method is a lot of trouble. It will also be good to have an alternative.
Glad to see you back on MFK. I've missed your comments.
 
Glad to see you back on MFK. I've missed your comments.
Hello; I was not actually gone but have been and continue to be very restricted as I am on probation. Any post I make has to go thru a Mod nanny and does not show up in real time. I rarely post on the open anymore. Lately there have been a couple of threads in which I felt I might be of help so I decided to try to get some posts across.
I do stay active in a PM type conversation which was started well before I was placed on probation. I am curious if a non restricted forum member can start a PM conversation with me. I am restricted and cannot start them anymore.
Thank you for the kind comment about me.
 
Hello; I was not actually gone but have been and continue to be very restricted as I am on probation. Any post I make has to go thru a Mod nanny and does not show up in real time. I rarely post on the open anymore. Lately there have been a couple of threads in which I felt I might be of help so I decided to try to get some posts across.
I do stay active in a PM type conversation which was started well before I was placed on probation. I am curious if a non restricted forum member can start a PM conversation with me. I am restricted and cannot start them anymore.
Thank you for the kind comment about me.
I cannot PM you. (Tried)
 
Hello; I was not actually gone but have been and continue to be very restricted as I am on probation. Any post I make has to go thru a Mod nanny and does not show up in real time. I rarely post on the open anymore. Lately there have been a couple of threads in which I felt I might be of help so I decided to try to get some posts across.
I do stay active in a PM type conversation which was started well before I was placed on probation. I am curious if a non restricted forum member can start a PM conversation with me. I am restricted and cannot start them anymore.
Thank you for the kind comment about me.

Yeah good to see you again @skjl47 . With a bit of luck it won't be long before your restrictions and probationary status are lifted.
 
I cannot PM you. (Tried)
Hello; Thanks I suspected as much.
With a bit of luck it won't be long before your restrictions and probationary status are lifted.
Hello; Thanks for the thought. I have no idea if nor when I may be given back regular status. While I sort of think I know why I was placed on probation, I was never given a specific reason. Never got a specific personal warning before being placed on probation nor an indication of how long. I had thought at the time I was acting within the letters of the written rules.
 
I had the same issue with my 300 gallons. Worst than yours. Just follow directions on the product. Will clean within A week And didnt come back. The best stuff you can use is “ultralife - green slim remover.” does not kill beneficial bacteria or harm fish or plants.

you will thank me for it.

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I think it something like $2/pill for the erythromicin, a couple pills per 200L treatment. It's been a while. Was a pretty insignificant amount anyway. The difficulty is it's prescription only, so you need to get a vet to write you a script. Would have been cheaper from a human doc.

That is a problem, I don’t know if any vets in the area that know anything about aquatics and would write a prescription for me. And I don’t think my dogs vet would do it either.
Thankfully it looks like I have a couple other options:)

I had the same issue with my 300 gallons. Worst than yours. Just follow directions on the product. Will clean within A week And didnt come back. The best stuff you can use is “ultralife - green slim remover.” does not kill beneficial bacteria or harm fish or plants.

you will thank me for it.

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Thank you, if rid-x doesn’t take care of it then I might have to try that.
I’ll take before pictures of the tanks before I treat and then see if there’s improvement in a few weeks.
 
That is a problem, I don’t know if any vets in the area that know anything about aquatics and would write a prescription for me. And I don’t think my dogs vet would do it either.
Thankfully it looks like I have a couple
Thank you, if rid-x doesn’t take care of it then I might have to try that.
I’ll take before pictures of the tanks before I treat and then see if there’s improvement in a few weeks.
That is a problem, I don’t know if any vets in the area that know anything about aquatics and would write a prescription for me. And I don’t think my dogs vet would do it either.
Thankfully it looks like I have a couple other options:)



Thank you, if rid-x doesn’t take care of it then I might have to try that.
I’ll take before pictures of the tanks before I treat and then see if there’s improvement in a few weeks.


I would try the ultralife first. It’s made for aquariums. And for the purpose of getting rid of Cyanobacteria.
 
Here is one of the tanks that had it the worst.
It did seem to make a difference. It started coming off the wall in pieces so I used a long handle blade to clean the back wall. And I gently wiped off the pieces that were coming off the rock next to the wood.
the java fern still is covered, but even that I think looks a little better. I haven’t tried cleaning it off the plant yet, but might at the next water change.

This was before
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