Arapaima Gigas

johnptc

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pophead;609149;609149 said:
got any really big fishing nets?
you could build a kind of a stretcher or just get a big board, put the fish on it, and put something over it so it doens't roll off or something.
having more than one man doing it is probably a given.:eek:
just some wanna-be advise from a:newbie:
yes..........the problem is the damage a fish this big could to do you or to itself !!!!

the net would need to be softer than a landing net for fishing.......

keep the ideas rolling............thanks john
 

Zoodiver

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I've already sent the details in PM, but for the rest of the forum, a simple version

I suggested Tricane Methanesulfonate (MS-222) to slow the animal down a little.
I've moved some big arapaima in the past. Some short moves, some longer trips. In the next month or so, we'll be moving a medium sized animal half way across the US. MS-222 isthe best proven drug to work on them. Being obligate air breathers maek thigns a little harder as well.

Let me tell you guys a story to show you why you need to slow these guys up a little.

I was called in to move an adult arapaima (14' long and an easy 350-400 lbs) out of an exhibit and take it to another facility. The animal was by FAR the largest thing in the tank, and have never had a person (diver) in the water with it. Fist thing on the list was to set up a transport tank in the back of a tractor trailor. We have a full filter system running on it, as well as O2 etc..... Next step was to see how it would react to people in the water. We spent a good part of the morning just testing it.....see how close we could swim etc. The fish had been given some drug to slow it down in food prior to us showing up, but it took no effect at all. We injected the animal with ketamine (just aft of the gill cover is the ONLY soft spot on these guys). The first shot missed and bent the needle. Second shot went in. We waited and nothing happened. We dosed a second round at half the volume of the first, and still nothing. Four hits later, it started to slow down. Note: based on weight and amount given, this animal should be barely moving by this point. We finally decided a team should get in the tank and push the animal to one side with a net. We also started draining the pool. Mid afternoon, the pool was about 6' deep. We had eight people in the water - 6 on the net, and 2 still working on the animal. We thought we might be able to muscle it to the edge, and get it in our aquatic cloth stretcher, then out to the truck. We took a chance as it passed close by. My #2 diver got a medium sized net over it's nose. The fish started to take off, so I wrapped my arms around both his arms and the fish's body. The fish then preceded to jump out of the water, OVER the net stretched across the exhibit and the people holding it, then come down on the other side, myself and the other diver attached.

Quick recap: Fish that should be 100% knocked down took two fully decked out divers up out of the water and over a net. THAT is muscle.

Later, it took 17 people to move it after two more rounds of drug doses and the fish started to slow down. We managed to get it to swim into our cloth stretcher on it's own, then lifted it straight up and out, ran outside, and set it down in the holding tank in the back of the transport truck.

So the moral of the story is even though John's is a short move just feet away, it has to be approached with some intelligence. These fish are FAR stronger than they would ever let on.
 

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:headbang2 THAT'S ONE DOPE TANK! BUT IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEAKIN' A LITTLE FROM THE GLASS, DOESN'T IT?
 

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I've always wanted to see an arapaima. Closest I've come so far and when I first learned the fish existed was a natural history mesuem. Must be exciting to see one 14 feet long.
Hopefully I'll eventually get to a public aquarium that has one.

PS: I too wonder if any private individual can provide adaquate housing for a 15 foot fish. This seems like enough of a challenge for a public aquarium.
 

johnptc

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the fellow in canada ended up with a 50000 gallon tank !!

the 5000 mine is in will become too small and i will either switch to a round pool or relocate to a public aquarium....:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:



Eupterus;617025; said:
I've always wanted to see an arapaima. Closest I've come so far and when I first learned the fish existed was a natural history mesuem. Must be exciting to see one 14 feet long.
Hopefully I'll eventually get to a public aquarium that has one.

PS: I too wonder if any private individual can provide adaquate housing for a 15 foot fish. This seems like enough of a challenge for a public aquarium.
 

pophead

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yea in a 50000 gallon tank you can put in just about anything, other than some saltwater sharks, but even lots of those...:drool:
 
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