Axolotl or mud puppy?

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JacobWhitley

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Citrinellus;3656379;3656379 said:
Well...
Mudpuppies
-Eventually turn into Tiger Salamanders
-Get Larger
Axolotl
-Smaller
-Never become a Salamander, unless the owner intentionally tries too. Which it turns into a Fire Salamander (I think its a fire salamander)

Personally I prefer Axolotls, what size tank is it going into. Also both don't work well with tankmates.
a mud puppy dont turn into anything but a bigger mud puppy lol
 

Citrinellus

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Yeah, I got that information from a bad source... I've stopped using it since.
 

Joe M

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You would need a bigger tank but i say a Muddpuppy. I had 2 of them about a foot and a half long when i was younger. They were so cool. They are great escape artists though. My mom didnt appreciate waking up to 2 large salamanders slithering around our living room. Axoltols just dont appeal to me like a muddpuppy does. I caught mine fishing the Mohawk River in New York for Walleye. They were both about 6-8 inches long when i got them.
 

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Joe M;4467290;4467290 said:
You would need a bigger tank but i say a Muddpuppy. I had 2 of them about a foot and a half long when i was younger. They were so cool. They are great escape artists though. My mom didnt appreciate waking up to 2 large salamanders slithering around our living room. Axoltols just dont appeal to me like a muddpuppy does. I caught mine fishing the Mohawk River in New York for Walleye. They were both about 6-8 inches long when i got them.
i have a lil one you think when it gets bigger i could put it with CA Cichlids
 

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What temp are your tanks if kept at room temp? Axolotls are sensitive to higher temps. Ideally they shouldn't go above about 73F or so, and should have a strong air pump to keep aeration up if the temps rise a little.

I think one thing to consider is that axolotls come in a variety of colors. The breeder I got mine from has the following colorations: wild type, grey melanistic, black melanistic, white albino, gold albino, and multiple types of green fluorescent protein.

I would suggest more like a 40breeder or larger for axolotls unless you just want one by itself. Mine have been fine with fancy goldfish. They can both eat New Life Spectrum (my axolotls on NLS alone matched the growth rates the breeder I got them from achieved with his mix of worms, trout pellets, etc.). There is always a risk when you combine axolotls with anything, they are very easy targets for most fish to nip the gills off of them, or the axolotls will eat the fish.

They have to be on sand. Bare bottom can stress them out and wear out their toes since they have no grip, gravel can be swallowed and cause an impaction/obstruction.

Here is a shot showing a few of mine in with some goldfish.
 

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JacobWhitley;4467304; said:
i have a lil one you think when it gets bigger i could put it with CA Cichlids
Their skin is really sensitive and those red external gills may be to temting for a hungry Cichlid to pass up so i dont think that would be a good idea. And they like cool water anyways. That was a plus for me that i never had to heat their tank.

reptileguy2727;4467364; said:
What temp are your tanks if kept at room temp? Axolotls are sensitive to higher temps. Ideally they shouldn't go above about 73F or so, and should have a strong air pump to keep aeration up if the temps rise a little.

I think one thing to consider is that axolotls come in a variety of colors. The breeder I got mine from has the following colorations: wild type, grey melanistic, black melanistic, white albino, gold albino, and multiple types of green fluorescent protein.

I would suggest more like a 40breeder or larger for axolotls unless you just want one by itself. Mine have been fine with fancy goldfish. They can both eat New Life Spectrum (my axolotls on NLS alone matched the growth rates the breeder I got them from achieved with his mix of worms, trout pellets, etc.). There is always a risk when you combine axolotls with anything, they are very easy targets for most fish to nip the gills off of them, or the axolotls will eat the fish.

They have to be on sand. Bare bottom can stress them out and wear out their toes since they have no grip, gravel can be swallowed and cause an impaction/obstruction.

Here is a shot showing a few of mine in with some goldfish.

Those look really good. Much better than other ones ive seen. Do you remember exactly what breeder you got yours from?
 

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also how much do those cost now. i remember getting one of these when i was a kid and havent seen one at the local shop since, but have been craving one for a while now. also curious on the breeder as well.
 

reptileguy2727

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That is why I am glad I only feed NLS, their condition is the best I have seen in person, as good as the best I have seen online.

I got mine from Michael Shrom in PA, you could probably find him on caudata.org.

When I got mine they were running $10 each at 2" (not the green fluorescent protein ones). I picked mine up from him at reptile expos, but he will ship.
 
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