loconorc;1163847; said:
Fish mentality: if it dies, get another one, after all any animal that is not a big mammal die in a few weeks.
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Fish mentality: if it dies, get another one, after all any animal that is not a big mammal die in a few weeks.
I never take my snake out of its enclosure to eat. If it swallows a peice of bedding it doesn't affect him and he eats again next week.
The one time I did feed a snake in another cage, he was to disstracted by his new surounding and was interested in the food. When he finaly did eat, I was affraid of me moving him back would make him regurgitate his food. I wont ever mess with that again. Feeding in their cage is just fine.
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The one time I did feed a snake in another cage, he was to disstracted by his new surounding and was interested in the food. When he finaly did eat, I was affraid of me moving him back would make him regurgitate his food. I wont ever mess with that again. Feeding in their cage is just fine.
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well when feeding a snake in its cage its alot easier for them to confuse your hand with food when your going in his tank but if your snake is use to you taking him out to feed they will be less cage aggressive well that is if you know your reptile behaviors that is
and as far a bedding goes whats wrong with reptile carpet i've used it for over 10 years without a single problem
and as far a bedding goes whats wrong with reptile carpet i've used it for over 10 years without a single problem
Reptile carpet allows for NO NATURAL BEHAVIORS. NONE. Substrate is a TOOL, just like everything else is, for survival. What do you expect them to do with it? With aspen and carefresh, they can BURROW, a natural behavior that allows them security, more so than a hidespot (which most people never get the concept of, sadly). And its a breeding ground for bacteria. So heres the deal. Normally, that wouldnt be a problem with other substrates. ALL substrates hold bacteria. But with carpet and other USELESS substrates, the animal can't perform natural behaviors and will be stressed. Stress weakens the immune system. With the immune system weakened, the normally harmless bacteria (and in some cases, parasites) can take a toll on the animal. Reptiles are TOUGH. You can't tell they are sick in they are knockin' on heaven's door.
In cage feeding is much less problematic, 'NUFF SAID. When nearly everyone but you in the thread disagrees, ITS PROBABLY RIGHT. It's just another 'old wives tale' of herpkeeping. Sorta like the myth that superworms can chew holes in the stomach of herps can escape.
Even if your herps are 'doing fine', fine can be better.
Hope you figure it out.
In cage feeding is much less problematic, 'NUFF SAID. When nearly everyone but you in the thread disagrees, ITS PROBABLY RIGHT. It's just another 'old wives tale' of herpkeeping. Sorta like the myth that superworms can chew holes in the stomach of herps can escape.
Even if your herps are 'doing fine', fine can be better.
Hope you figure it out.
I keep my blood pythons on newspaper in a darkened room with no hides! They are doing spectacularly well! woohoooooooo blood pythons!
seriously, we're keeping them in captivity. Not the wild. Using newspaper isn't a sign of laziness as much as it is a sign of practicality and utilization of cheap, readily available resources. Unless you have a completely bio-active vivarium set up for your snake (which is amazing if you do, but beyond the means of most people), newspaper is a great way to go. Because when the snake goes, there's a lot more than just the solid part. In fact, my snakes expel pure liquid waste three or four days after eating, and if I were using a substrate such as aspen, sphagnum, or coconut fiber, I'd be spending a fortune every week replacing that crap. And if I just spot-cleaned, that's a lot of liquid urates I'd be leaving in the cage, which means a lot of ammonia and phosphorus exposure for my snakes. And that's something I really don't want.
As far as security issues, give the snake a hide box. If the snake wants to hide, it probably doesn't care either way if it ends up hiding in a burrow or a hide box, as long as the snake gets to hide. My young snakes have hides available to them; most of the time, only my baby blood pythons use them. My carpets do occasionally, but I usually find one sitting in the corner of her cage and the other sitting on top of her hide. The adult snakes eventually reached a point where they didn't really care to hide in a box.
Again, we're keeping them in captivity, not nature. A captive-raised snake that is handled regularly and gently is going to become a lot more secure and will feel less pressure to hide than a wild snake which knows it has to worry about predation.
seriously, we're keeping them in captivity. Not the wild. Using newspaper isn't a sign of laziness as much as it is a sign of practicality and utilization of cheap, readily available resources. Unless you have a completely bio-active vivarium set up for your snake (which is amazing if you do, but beyond the means of most people), newspaper is a great way to go. Because when the snake goes, there's a lot more than just the solid part. In fact, my snakes expel pure liquid waste three or four days after eating, and if I were using a substrate such as aspen, sphagnum, or coconut fiber, I'd be spending a fortune every week replacing that crap. And if I just spot-cleaned, that's a lot of liquid urates I'd be leaving in the cage, which means a lot of ammonia and phosphorus exposure for my snakes. And that's something I really don't want.
As far as security issues, give the snake a hide box. If the snake wants to hide, it probably doesn't care either way if it ends up hiding in a burrow or a hide box, as long as the snake gets to hide. My young snakes have hides available to them; most of the time, only my baby blood pythons use them. My carpets do occasionally, but I usually find one sitting in the corner of her cage and the other sitting on top of her hide. The adult snakes eventually reached a point where they didn't really care to hide in a box.
Again, we're keeping them in captivity, not nature. A captive-raised snake that is handled regularly and gently is going to become a lot more secure and will feel less pressure to hide than a wild snake which knows it has to worry about predation.
i take no offence everyone has a opinion and should express it ive used the carpet but i always made sure there is three or more hiding spots maybe thats why i had no problems plus i would bleach it once a week to kill all bac.
and as far a feeding in cage i had a rainbow boa that was really cage agresive and i stopped feeding him in his cage and started feeding him in a box and he stoped all agresion when i went in his cage and so i used that with every other snake i ever owned and never been bitten but maybe it was just luck and im wrong ooooo
and as far a feeding in cage i had a rainbow boa that was really cage agresive and i stopped feeding him in his cage and started feeding him in a box and he stoped all agresion when i went in his cage and so i used that with every other snake i ever owned and never been bitten but maybe it was just luck and im wrong ooooo
loconorc;1164595; said:That was in no way trying to offend you. A lot of people see blunt honesty as offensive, not sure why. Just hope you know that.
I said 'spectacularly well' and I meant it. They were doing 'pretty good' on sphagnum moss, and before that, they were 'somewhat better than fine' on cypress mulch and related products.
Just because you think you know everything doesn't mean my snakes aren't thriving. Alright?
Just because you think you know everything doesn't mean my snakes aren't thriving. Alright?
Depend on the personality really...
I notice that my Antaresia pythons liked paper towel more than aspen, newspaper, butcher paper, etc. On the other hand, Corns seem to do better in shredded unprinted newspaper than aspen, and so on. Each snakes are different. My boas loved having holes cut into kitty litter bins, but my Carpet Python liked to go underneath the kitty litter bins rather than going through the holes I made for them; so I just give them a regular kitty litterbin and use the holed-out hides for someone else.
I notice that my Antaresia pythons liked paper towel more than aspen, newspaper, butcher paper, etc. On the other hand, Corns seem to do better in shredded unprinted newspaper than aspen, and so on. Each snakes are different. My boas loved having holes cut into kitty litter bins, but my Carpet Python liked to go underneath the kitty litter bins rather than going through the holes I made for them; so I just give them a regular kitty litterbin and use the holed-out hides for someone else.
