Best Sand ever!!

[twentyleagues]

I was trying to figure out what a PIA was. Thought it was abbreviation for a scientific aquatic term. Could not find it in my comprehensive aquarium encyclopedia. I think I have it now.

Lol.
Its a life scientific term.

Yes you can continue dosing to get to a ulns- ultra low nutrient system, thats a system 0 ammonia 0 nitrite and below 2.5 nitrate near 0 p04. At least in salt. Supposedly corals do better. But if you take nitrate readings at reefs where corals are flourishing readings are anywhere from almost nil to 20ppm some times higher. I found I had the best growth and coloration at about 15ppm. I got a large biopellet reactor and started that puppy up. Once it was running it was pretty easy to check flow output once a week and tweek if needed. Hit a nice stability about 6 weeks later and got a good routine down and just went with it. Corals did great fish were happy.
I've been thinking gow to get a better handle on nitrate mine arent terrible about 30ish by wc day. But I do 90% water changes weekly. I'd like to control nitrate and get it to say 20 ppm with biweekly changes. I'm not into doing the carbon dosing thing. But I have been trying to figure out a good way to get and support a beneficial anaerobic bacteria population without carbon dosing. Biohome supporters say their products are a perfect media that does it, but I don't want to pay that for a gimmick or I should say somthing that may work in a perfect world.
But this is a sand thread not a liqueur thead or a ulns thread. I'll stop derailing now

 

[spotfin]

Cool product. I'd be interested to know of anyone has used this with rays.

I would not use this sand, or any color coated sand, for rays. Rays will ingest sand and not knowing what the grains are coated with, you are taking a big risk IME. I lost rays in the past, and attribute it to the sand.

 

[spotfin]

Cool product. I'd be interested to know of anyone has used this with rays.

I would not use this sand, or any color coated sand, for rays. Rays will ingest sand and not knowing what the grains are coated with, you are taking a big risk IME. I lost rays in the past, and attribute it to the coated sand.

 

[Fishflyer]

Lol.
Its a life scientific term.
Yes you can continue dosing to get to a ulns- ultra low nutrient system, thats a system 0 ammonia 0 nitrite and below 2.5 nitrate near 0 p04. At least in salt. Supposedly corals do better. But if you take nitrate readings at reefs where corals are flourishing readings are anywhere from almost nil to 20ppm some times higher. I found I had the best growth and coloration at about 15ppm. I got a large biopellet reactor and started that puppy up. Once it was running it was pretty easy to check flow output once a week and tweek if needed. Hit a nice stability about 6 weeks later and got a good routine down and just went with it. Corals did great fish were happy.
I've been thinking gow to get a better handle on nitrate mine arent terrible about 30ish by wc day. But I do 90% water changes weekly. I'd like to control nitrate and get it to say 20 ppm with biweekly changes. I'm not into doing the carbon dosing thing. But I have been trying to figure out a good way to get and support a beneficial anaerobic bacteria population without carbon dosing. Biohome supporters say their products are a perfect media that does it, but I don't want to pay that for a gimmick or I should say somthing that may work in a perfect world.
But this is a sand thread not a liqueur thead or a ulns thread. I'll stop derailing now

For Twenty Leagues: Zeolite in substrate? Granular Ferric Oxide? For Ultra Low Nutrient System.

One thing leads to another. (Decent song by the Fix also) as far as subject matter. If Finwin ( seems very good natured) or anyone else objects could switch to personal or my thread To Sand Or Not To Sand. New hobbiest may learn something new. I say we are always learning and teaching--students and teachers.

You know it is important to maintain aerobic and anaerobic beneficial bacteria. I learned to maintain anerobic b. bacteria by having low water flow nooks and overhang areas. Deeper substrate in some areas, with sand 2 inches. Gravel I think one can go a little deeper in places -Having a sand sifting/shifting fish that maintains some oxygen exposure. I have a couple particular cichlids that like to do that. I'm thinking you may have salt water fish that do the same.

Finwin do you mind if we had that little aside? The liquor lead to carbon dosing to nitrate reduction alternatives. We can start a separate thread under that heading Nitrates Reduction--co authored/sponsored by all of three of us or whomever. Generally most threads have large member participation and become (or are?) public forums--that is--everyone hangouts or drop bys. No it's MY thread. Sign in. Ruff Rrrrrrufff! RRRRR. Down boy.

 

[Fishflyer]

For Twenty Leagues: Zeolite in substrate? Granular Ferric Oxide? For Ultra Low Nutrient System.

One thing leads to another. (Decent song by the Fix also) as far as subject matter. If Finwin ( seems very good natured) or anyone else objects could switch to personal or my thread To Sand Or Not To Sand. New hobbiest may learn something new. I say we are always learning and teaching--students and teachers.

You know it is important to maintain aerobic and anaerobic beneficial bacteria. I learned to maintain anerobic b. bacteria by having low water flow nooks and overhang areas. Deeper substrate in some areas, with sand 2 inches. Gravel I think one can go a little deeper in places -Having a sand sifting/shifting fish that maintains some oxygen exposure. I have a couple particular cichlids that like to do that. I'm thinking you may have salt water fish that do the same.

Finwin do you mind if we had that little aside? The liquor lead to carbon dosing to nitrate reduction alternatives. We can start a separate thread under that heading Nitrates Reduction--co authored/sponsored by all of three of us or whomever. Generally most threads have large member participation and become (or are?) public forums--that is--everyone hangouts or drop bys. No it's MY thread. Sign in. Ruff Rrrrrrufff! RRRRR. Down boy.

Don't corals need some nutrient input?

 

[Fishflyer]

Don't corals need some nutrient input?

Course we need aerobic, medium to high water flow areas and/or bubblers for aerobic b. bacteria. These different conditions should be dependant also on a particular fish species', and other life forms needs. But by maintaining both a high and low water flow areas can maintain aerobic and anaerobic b. bacteria and more varying types of fish that prefer either condition.

 

[twentyleagues]

Don't corals need some nutrient input?

Yup they do. All corals eat and most photosynthesis. Different size foods depending on tentacle size/mouth size. Some can eat fish others phytoplankton and every thing in between. This is one reason to watch nitrates closely they csn get away from you easily. But I fed my corals directly about 3 times a week depending on the coral. After lights out on a reef all sps and lps want to feed tenticals come out looking to grab food. Its a really cool second job.....lol.

 

[Fishflyer]

Yup they do. All corals eat and most photosynthesis. Different size foods depending on tentacle size/mouth size. Some can eat fish others phytoplankton and every thing in between. This is one reason to watch nitrates closely they csn get away from you easily. But I fed my corals directly about 3 times a week depending on the coral. After lights out on a reef all sps and lps want to feed tenticals come out looking to grab food. Its a really cool second job.....lol.

Sounds like a cool show! I knew they are those in natural setting, but what do you feed them in your aquarium. Brine shrimp? Do some types of your coral take your fish on rare occasion? By trying to achieve an ultra low nutrient system talking about waste? Are their salt water plants that can help with this as in freshwater planted tank? I can't recall seeing plants in the salt tanks at the l. fish shop.

 

[Fishflyer]

Sounds like a cool show! I knew they are those in natural setting, but what do you feed them in your aquarium. Brine shrimp? Do some types of your coral take your fish on rare occasion? By trying to achieve an ultra low nutrient system talking about waste? Are their salt water plants that can help with this as in freshwater planted tank? I can't recall seeing plants in the salt tanks at the l. fish shop.

Correction: I meant knew coral ate that in natural setting. Ha, I liked your scientific life term--when things aren't going right. It is also patient slang for an uncomfortable medical procedure. Ouch.
So what kind of sand do you use in your marine tank?

 

[twentyleagues]

Correction: I meant knew coral ate that in natural setting. Ha, I liked your scientific life term--when things aren't going right. It is also patient slang for an uncomfortable medical procedure. Ouch.
So what kind of sand do you use in your marine tank?

Aragonite sand. Pool filter sand and sands like it have too much p04.
Oh there are different coral foods such as phytofeast its phytoplankton, oyster eggs, small frozen fish, copopods, brine shrimp, mysis shrimp. Like I said depends on the coral size as to what it can or will try to eat. I never lost a healthy fish to a coral or nem.