Can anyone tell the gender of my vieja fish ( red spotted gutalattas)

[dhanesh]

I know some CA cichlid females develop black markings into the dorsal fin. As for Vieja I am not certain of that characteristic mate.
Any Vieja experts in the community know the answer to this question?
Let’s see those crisp clear vent pics

 

[dhanesh]

First of all, welcome to MFK!
Second, you have to vent the cichlid in order to find its gender
Deadeye
danotaylor

 

[dhanesh]

Welcome to the forum!
I don’t know Vieja too well, but with any cichlid you can’t go wrong with venting. duanes will definitely be the authority on this.

 

[Deadeye]

I wouldn’t be able to confidently say from that. Best bet is to get the fish to face upward or take it out of the tank first a shot of the vent.