tnx guys, Man I love this site lol. Great ego boost I guess. I pride myself with catfish. They have been my number one since day one. Something about them, and yes my first cat was a rtc. Very stupidly since I had no idea what I was doing. Took me a few years and sadly a few catfish deaths to learn that. I just hope that the things I post here and elsewhere makes some catfish' life a little better if their owners are better informed. I truely believe that anyone who can afford to set up a 125 gal tank can afford to keep adult rtc, and tsn. Just get a cattle trough instead of the 125 gal. Cheaper. lol. A 350 gal trough will buy you enough time(like 3 years) to build a nice big aquarium or larger pond. Just for updates I would think that my hybrid has breached the 34" mark. I just need to measure it. When he lays cross-ways in his pond he is over half the dia now. It is 6ft dia, but that's to the outer edge of pond. It's more like 5 1/2' dia on the bottom. He's about 2-3 inches over half the dia. So I am saying 34-35" lol 3' is just down the road a couple months. He just doesn't stop growing. He amazes me everyday. Tnx again guys. I am sure together we can all make great homes for our fine whiskered friends.