Cherry shrimp with wolf fish?

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Hi all, I’ve recently been wanting to spice up my 55 gallon planted aquarium with my four year old red wolf fish! I recognize that my fish is a bit of a rare one, but I feel like this question applies to most predatory fish aquariums. Do you think that it would be possible for me to establish a breeding colony of cherry shrimp within this tank, with the understanding that my wolf would keep the population in check? I want to know your thoughts on the danger of doing so, if my fish would become overfed, or if the shrimp wouldn’t breed under the conditions.
 
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It’s unlikely that it would work out. You would think that given the wolf’s size it would ignore something as small as a cherry but they really don’t care. If it moves, it’s food for the red wolf. Mine even eats ramshorn and pond snails. He’s eaten small crayfish and even daphnia when I tried to establish a culture. Cherry shrimp would be a great treat, but you’ll likely never get a population established.
 

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Check out this thread on the same topic

 
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Cherry Shrimp are far too large not to be noticed by a wolf fish and the wolf fish is a rather obsessive predator that will hunt them down until none are left. This type of set-up only works on extremely small or inefficient predators.
 
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Check out this thread on the same topic

Thanks so much for the link to this thread!
 

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It’s unlikely that it would work out. You would think that given the wolf’s size it would ignore something as small as a cherry but they really don’t care. If it moves, it’s food for the red wolf. Mine even eats ramshorn and pond snails. He’s eaten small crayfish and even daphnia when I tried to establish a culture. Cherry shrimp would be a great treat, but you’ll likely never get a population established.
Thanks for the input--- on the topic of snails; I was also thinking about introducing a couple of larger rabbit snails ~3-4 inches long. Is your wolf able to simply bite through their shells? If so, then I'm guessing that rabbit snails would be a no-go as well.
 

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Cherry Shrimp are far too large not to be noticed by a wolf fish and the wolf fish is a rather obsessive predator that will hunt them down until none are left. This type of set-up only works on extremely small or inefficient predators.
Thanks for the input!
 

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Thanks for the input--- on the topic of snails; I was also thinking about introducing a couple of larger rabbit snails ~3-4 inches long. Is your wolf able to simply bite through their shells? If so, then I'm guessing that rabbit snails would be a no-go as well.
I first realized it was eating them when I found crushed up shells on the bottom. I don’t think it would have any trouble tearing through shells.
 

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I've also had a minor outbreak of green hair algae in the tank recently-- I've tested nitrates and they're well in check, and I think it's simply a symptom of too much light. I have jungle val and hornwort growing in the tank and I worry about reducing the light for their sake-- also I just generally enjoy the tank with the light on, so another piece of my thought process with snails or shrimp is trying to combat the algae while not having to reduce the amount of light in the aquarium. If anyone has any thoughts on combatting this algae growth please let me know!
 

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Manual removal tends to be best IME. Reducing light would also help, you can comfortably drop it without hurting the plants that much.
I’ve also had luck dosing rid-x to the tank. You’re playing the long game, but over time it outcompetes algae and Cyanobacteria.
 
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