Seriously Fish always messing up with length of larger fish... For example the Asian RTC. Those despite grows slowly but get HUGE !!!
Chinese hi fin banded loaches at Fish Story
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I don't quite get your problem with SeriouslyFish. " Seriously Fish always messing up with length of larger fish " is a very strong, absolute, and condemning language! And uncalled for, IMHumbO. I beg to reconsider.The ARTC entry you complain about states this: https://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/hemibagrus-wyckioides/ "Maximum Standard Length The largest bagrid species in central Indochina reaching at least 900-1000 mm and 70-80 kg in weight. The largest specimen known to date measured 1300 mm."
Now, 1300 mm may not be the absolute known record but it is 4 feet 4 inches, pretty much the fish that Jean-François is holding in his arms in your photo. Any larger specimen are very hard to come by nowadays, although perhaps not impossible.
Yes, as in the case with the Chinese Hi Fin sharks, again... a 70-80 kg fish would have to be far, far larger than 4ft, actually, should be around 6-7 feet, but again, the champion length and champion weight data likely come from different sources.
Ken tried, as he says. I was trying too. But so far I have only one remaining.
I think everyone agrees about them faring far better in ponds. Yet often it can be a death sentence too to place a 2"-3" hi fin in a pond due to tank mates, or natural predators, so they have to be grown out somewhere else.
Thank you JJ, for this. One more thing comes to mind: you appear to fault SeriouslyFish for the indiscriminate, irrational ways some peers quote and treat their data. It is not the fault of the source, if people are gullible to the point of "believing" the data, instead of using their rationale and critical thinking and digestion and doing more homework and study on the topic/fish of their interest. It is not fair to fault the writer for the reader's intelligence that is found wanting...
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yeah you have convinced me to reconsidered. I think that the sources are from different sources come from and the web just collected them... but i hope some one from the site do some more research and check the info on the pages lol
So speciality cichlid food formulas would be better thats focused on the alage grazers? Just asking as i never tried to keep one but do see them often at the LFS. Just did not appeal to me when they lose that cute coloring they have when young. But is interesting species for sure to observe in other peoples setups.
I am learning as well. I'd say yes because I presume our peers said above that the hi fins feed on the "microorganisms on algae" only when the hi fins are very young and small, and then they shift to the algae themselves. Both are suppositions of mine, because [1] I need to read up on this and [2] I gathered no clarity on these two finer points from the prior posts from our peers (which were appreciated still very much).
NLS pellets which we offer contain a good portion of algae:
... our favorite NLS tropical fish diet pellet. The main ingredients are the same for all non-specialist, general feeds, it seems.
4.85 lb for $60 retail ($36 wholesale) = $12.4/lb ($7.4/lb)
Krill (Euphasia superba), Squid (Dosidicus gigas), Whole wheat flour, Seaweed (Ulva lactuca, Undaria pinnatafida, Eucheuma cottonii, Eucheuma spinosum, Chondrus crispus), Fish (Brevoortia tyrannus), Green Algae (Chlorella pyrendoidosa), Kelp, Garlic, Ginger, Astaxanthin, Spirulina, Fish Oil, Marigold, Bentonite Clay, Sea Salt, Vitamin A acetate, Vit. D, Vit. E, Vit. B12, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Vit. C, Choline chloride, Ethylenediamine Dihydro-iodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous sulfate, Manganese sulfate, Tocopherols (a preservative).
Crude protein 37%, crude fat 8%, crude fiber 7%, moisture 10%.
Vit. C min. 600 IU/Kg, Vit. A min. 10000 IU/Kg, Vit. D min. 3500 IU/Kg, Vit. E min. 400 IU/Kg.
More on the ingredients from the Company: https://www.feedspectrum.com/learn
NLS pellets which we offer contain a good portion of algae:
... our favorite NLS tropical fish diet pellet. The main ingredients are the same for all non-specialist, general feeds, it seems.
4.85 lb for $60 retail ($36 wholesale) = $12.4/lb ($7.4/lb)
Krill (Euphasia superba), Squid (Dosidicus gigas), Whole wheat flour, Seaweed (Ulva lactuca, Undaria pinnatafida, Eucheuma cottonii, Eucheuma spinosum, Chondrus crispus), Fish (Brevoortia tyrannus), Green Algae (Chlorella pyrendoidosa), Kelp, Garlic, Ginger, Astaxanthin, Spirulina, Fish Oil, Marigold, Bentonite Clay, Sea Salt, Vitamin A acetate, Vit. D, Vit. E, Vit. B12, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Vit. C, Choline chloride, Ethylenediamine Dihydro-iodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous sulfate, Manganese sulfate, Tocopherols (a preservative).
Crude protein 37%, crude fat 8%, crude fiber 7%, moisture 10%.
Vit. C min. 600 IU/Kg, Vit. A min. 10000 IU/Kg, Vit. D min. 3500 IU/Kg, Vit. E min. 400 IU/Kg.
More on the ingredients from the Company: https://www.feedspectrum.com/learn
Interesting info from our peer in Pennsylvania from YT comments.
Daniel Volpe I have 3 hi fins that I keep outside in Pennsylvania all year they seem to do just fine below freezing. They munch mostly on plant matter and algae from what I’ve noticed. Eat algae tabs and shrimp when they were small in a tank I had. My guess is high temps (TBTB edit: killing your sharks).
Fish Story, a DIY Public Aquarium & Fish Rescue Very helpful. Thank you so much. Interesting info that they live well in PA. Anywhere else I could read more about your experience with them? Write ups? Videos?
Daniel Volpe I don’t have any specific video or write ups but I just read about where they came from and the water temps there. And it’s not too off my local waters definitely colder here but close. Also heard about some people keeping them in NJ all year successfully so I thought I’d give it a shot. And it has worked out well for the past 2 years and they are growing and flourishing. Along with my koi, golden orfes and Albino channel cat.
Daniel Volpe I have 3 hi fins that I keep outside in Pennsylvania all year they seem to do just fine below freezing. They munch mostly on plant matter and algae from what I’ve noticed. Eat algae tabs and shrimp when they were small in a tank I had. My guess is high temps (TBTB edit: killing your sharks).
Fish Story, a DIY Public Aquarium & Fish Rescue Very helpful. Thank you so much. Interesting info that they live well in PA. Anywhere else I could read more about your experience with them? Write ups? Videos?
Daniel Volpe I don’t have any specific video or write ups but I just read about where they came from and the water temps there. And it’s not too off my local waters definitely colder here but close. Also heard about some people keeping them in NJ all year successfully so I thought I’d give it a shot. And it has worked out well for the past 2 years and they are growing and flourishing. Along with my koi, golden orfes and Albino channel cat.
Update. More of the same. The 1-for-5 shark survivor is doing well, growing, feeding on large NLS pellets (probably after they crumble or at least soften) and cut silversides (also on small pieces), with preference for the pellet crumbs. Has grown from 2" to 5" in the 3.5 months here:
Not the purpose of the video but some update visuals of the lone survivor toward the video's end. It has grown significantly, relative to this species, which is a slow grower.
Added 5" in 7 months to reach about 7" length. Doing well. Water temp 86F/30C.
From 2" to 10" in 10 months. Doing ok at 82F / 28C so far.
