Common Misconceptions about Central American Cichlids

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They are all predatory meat eaters.
Most Central Americans are omnivores meaning they get a large chunk of their diet from algae, detritus, and other plant type foods.
Cichlids like Rocio (JDs, the Herichthys carpintus group, and many Amatitlania (convict type)) spend much of their day grazing on algae, and detritus, getting that plant based diet, along with a little extra protein from the small animals that live in it.
Some Central Americans, the genera Cincelichthys, Isthmoheros, and some Vieja are primarily vegetarian, eating fallen fruit, leaf littler, higher aquatic and terrestrial plants, and algae.
Vieja maculacauda are even know to enter the ocean to graze on nutrient rich marine (salt water) algae.
Whenever you see a disc shaped, and rather round flat cichlid, it is apparent they cichlids are not built to be a predator, and their mouth shape and type of teeth coincide with those meant to graze on plants.
Similarly, the South American genera like Heros, and Uaru, or the Indian cichlid Etroplus suratensus are also, largely vegetarian in nature.

The genera Parachromis, Petenia, and Caquetaia, are the true carnivorous Central American predators. Built and shaped for speed to chase down prey, with a mouth apparatus for grabbing and holding prey, or as in the case with Petenia, extended jaw projection ability used to suck in that prey.
Yet even P. dovii have been found as adults, (when stomach contents have been analyzed) to be filled with 50% insects.

Another misconception that coincides with the above, is that because cichlids have large mouths, they need large pellets, or large chunks of flesh.
Especially with the clades considered eartheaters, such as Thorichthys, Cribroheros, and Geophagines (mostly S American) but represented in Central America by Geophagus crassilabrus, these fish take large mouthfuls of substrate, but sift out small, larval insects, mollusks, and worms, to ingest, and may have trouble with large objects often provided.

Another common misconception……
All cichlids are inherently aggressive.
Although some tend to be more aggressive than others, no matter what space is afforded, even large spaces.
Aggression is almost always (with a few exceptions) dependent on tank size.
If given the proper space, aggression usually is not an issue.
While an aquarist may perceive a 55 or 75 gallon glass box as a large body of water, these are about the size of a truck tire rut in the road, and one does not find cichlids living in those size puddles.

And consider beside simple space available, is that some species, like Nandopsis haitiensus which is the only cichlid endemic to its island habitat, or Mayaheros beanii, the only cichlid endemic to its northwestern Mexico rivers, may be a poor additions to a cichlid community tanks, because these loners see any other similar cichlid species , as a territorial threat.
Attaching a term like my fish is a “psycho”, is not relevant, because that fish is doing what instinct tells it to do. It’s not the fishes fault, it’s the aquarist fault for not providing the right space, or trying to put species together that probably shouldn’t be combined.

A common adage i see tossed about lately is
All New world cichlid need soft water
Most Central American waters are not soft.
A pH of 8-9 is not unusual in waters from Panama north into Mexico.
These waters are often highly mineralized and alkaline.
This is one of the reasons combining soft water Amazon basin species, like Oscars, or Uaru, with hard water Central Americans like Vieja or Herichthys can be problematic (not to mention the different space and territorial requirements.

Another related misconception.
All Central American species are loners, and should be kept as individuals
A number of Central Americans are shoaling species in nature.
Thorichthys, and Cribroheros are such species, and don’t do as well in pairs, or as a single individual in a mixed species cichlid community, as they would do as a single species group, in a large enough tank to hold a number of fish.
 
Agree with most. Parachomis aren’t strict piscavores. They are opportunistic predators. They’ll eat anything they can swallow. That includes amphibians, worms, crustaceans and even insects. Also would like to add there are other predatory cichlids such as grammodes and salvini. The majority of CA species are herbivorous, some more omnivorous with leaning more towards algae and plants. But cichlids adapt to their environment. Herichthys are a genus that primary feed on plants. Minckley has 3 feeding morphs though. Piscavore, molluscivorous and detritivorous. Same species, different foods. I would imagine catch location is important when keeping them though. Back to the predators-they still need some plant in their diet IMO. I read a paper about how cichlid predators get their fiber from the undigested continent in their prey. Was very interesting but can’t find it. In any case it’s not so clear cut, and is why a quality pellet is usually recommended.
On people mixing cichlids that require different water conditions-they are usually noobs. Usually want one of each species in a small tank to boot. Those fish never last long.
One misconception think a lot of people have is that they need warm water. Most CA cichlids live in cooler waters. I see many kept in the high 70s and 80sF. This will also will slowly kill those cichlids.
 
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This is good stuff duanes, as always. Man I've learned a ton from you in the short time I've been here.

I'm curious if there's a way to replicate the environment, with the small insects that thoricthys sift through. I don't even know how to approach this search, however vivariums use tiny insects like springtails to maintain the health of the substrate and plants, perhaps there is something similar in aquaria. I know we have snails that serve the purpose of cleaning detritus and feeding certain species, but I can't imagine that's what's being sifted through a Firemouth's gills. Would a culture of cyclops or other copepod be able to maintain themselves in an aquarium setting? Maybe scattered leaves can provide cover. Interesting possibilities.


A side note- some articles I've come across use the term "carnivorous" to describe fish *because* they eat insects, not just other fish. I don't know if that's the correct way to describe, but I've seen it.
 
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Carnivorous is an appropriate term for insect eaters, and there are some strict insectivores (a more appropriate term), some strict molluscivores etc etc.
Although in reality, most cichlids are omnivores, one of the reasons they are so successful.
The good thing about the high quality pellets and other prepared foods made today, is they can account for those needs in the process.
I prefer sinking pellets for those cichlids that rummage thru the substrate, more to account for their instinctual fear of birds of prey, than anything else.
My wild caught Andinoacara have never really lost that' well justified fear in my tank (it is outside so bird shadows, and even an occasional bird drinks from it.
I believe if you look at a cichlids mouth, its location, and body shape, it is very telling about what they eat.
Especially the teeth.
We all know Puffers are molluscivores, but there are a number of cichlids that also make their living that way, and some, have teeth to prove it.
The genus Paretroplus from Madagascar has a number of representatives of that ilk, like P maculatus (below)
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or P menerambo
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They use those can opener like teeth to extract snail flesh from the shells.
The true piscivores always have appropriate teeth
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and although you might not be able to see the teeth of the vegetarians, there bit marks tell the tale.
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and of course then there are the earth eaters, where not only mouth shape, but its placement, and location tell us the obvious
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One thing I think many aquarists fail to realize, that opposed to being strict piscivores, if you observe true Oscar behavior they tend to eat what falls on on the surface of the water such as insects, even fruit. The upturned mouth, the body shape (not so streamlined like Parachromis) and the way they position themselves in nature says a lot about how they make a living.
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Fascinating pictures and perspective duanes. I wonder how much better off our fish health can be if we took the time to really observe them.

In reading many pages of species profiles, I've noticed a LOT of fish naturally eat algae. I find it funny that many of us aquarists deploy certain fish to knock out algae purposefully trying to clear the stuff when it is considered a good by so many. Why not promote it in certain areas? It has benefits so much so that other aquarists purchase algae pellets. Reminds me of the situation with "pest" snails, who provide multiple benefits to a tank and inhabitants and are a self limiting "problem" given enough time and careful feeding.

Threads like this are really helping me put together a tank. My next will take into consideration the balance I can foster. I plan to work *with* my fish and nature as best I can. It's funny that plants that many so love often aren't a part of many many fishes environment, yet things we strive to eliminate like algae, snails, detritus-all serve a purpose in balanced nature. I realize our attempts to contain nature in a glass box runs into issues with toxins building up, but I'm considering leaving my tank unvacced and instead hooking up a constant water change system. Maybe the idea sounds ridiculously idealistic, what do you think?
 
I keep my sumps in direct sun light.
The pic where bocourti are eating hair algae, was from about decade ago when I lived in the states, and I put planted refugiums in southern exposure window box areas.
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Now in Panama, its easier because my tank and sumps are on the patio, and even a few hours of morning sun grows algae like crazy.
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