Crenicichla Saxatilis not eating

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HITH can be the result of numerous causes, some underlying issues include thiaminase poisoning which eventually block tissue reformation and leave fish susceptible to more permanent-esk damage over time. HITH can also be a result of increased stress from poor water quality as duanes duanes said, and result in heightened responses towards it. this period of weakness gives members of the Spironucleus group an opportunity to multiply and slowly chip away at both tissue and the mechanisms that repair it. SP v/spp is found in most fish through their intestines, but are harmless until given the chance when immune systems are weakened.

considering that the water parameters are stable now I would check for any noticeable issues or telltale signs of parasites or other unwanted parasites along with other issues that may cause unnecessary stress towards fish; ie external effects like sound, excessive vibration, or even movement that may push the fish into a panicked state.
 
HITH can be the result of numerous causes, some underlying issues include thiaminase poisoning which eventually block tissue reformation and leave fish susceptible to more permanent-esk damage over time. HITH can also be a result of increased stress from poor water quality as duanes duanes said, and result in heightened responses towards it. this period of weakness gives members of the Spironucleus group an opportunity to multiply and slowly chip away at both tissue and the mechanisms that repair it. SP v/spp is found in most fish through their intestines, but are harmless until given the chance when immune systems are weakened.

considering that the water parameters are stable now I would check for any noticeable issues or telltale signs of parasites or other unwanted parasites along with other issues that may cause unnecessary stress towards fish; ie external effects like sound, excessive vibration, or even movement that may push the fish into a panicked state.
I never saw any signs of parasites. His poop always looked normal and he never acted unusual. He still isn't acting unusual aside from not eating. His tank is in the basement away from everything and everyone else. The only potential source of vibration is from the air pump.
 
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HITH bacteria are microscopic, so nothing overt.
Many times more than one stress factor is a causative, but even removing one can reverse an HITH trend. (although it takes time, just as it took time to develop).
Just curious, what is your pH? most pike cichlids, get stressed out, if water is hard, and has a pH much above 7.
I usually find upping a water change schedule can do wonders, as opposed to throwing meds at it.
Once you get nitrates down to a less chronic level improovement follows, as long as you continue the new water change schedule
 
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HITH bacteria are microscopic, so nothing overt.
Many times more than one stress factor is a causative, but even removing one can reverse an HITH trend. (although it takes time, just as it took time to develop).
Just curious, what is your pH? most pike cichlids, get stressed out, if water is hard, and has a pH much above 7.
I usually find upping a water change schedule can do wonders, as opposed to throwing meds at it.
Once you get nitrates down to a less chronic level improovement follows, as long as you continue the new water change schedule
Total hardness is 300 and kh is 0, but pH is around a 6.6. I think it might be from the driftwood and alder cones I've added.
 
A Total water hardness of 300, is quite hard, much harder thake most pike cichlids experience in the soft waters in nature in S America.

If it were me...........when doing water changes, I'd slighty dilute your tap water with a little DI water from the grocery store, or some rain water.
And ....I'd start out gradually, maybe for every gallow of change I'd add a quart of DI or rain water.
And if the pike reacts well, cut the tap water in half, with the other half being DI/rain water.
 
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