Delta!

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Jack Dempsey
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I breed Hanoverian horses, but Delta (Delta Queen WSS) is the first one I've kept for myself!

I own both parents. She was born April 1st 2023, and has been MASSIVE since birth. For a variety of reasons, I had not planned to keep a filly from this cross, but as soon as she was born, I said, "this one's for me, I want to keep her." Mr. Heck, who is both incredibly supportive and frustrating practical, asked, "how does that fit into your 5 year plan?" I said, "it doesn't!" He asked, "who will you breed her to?" I said, "she's not for breeding - she's for me to ride."

Sooooo we made a bet, based on one of her DNA tests - if she was a carrier for the fully recessive disease gene that she had a 50/50 chance of carrying, I would sell her with no further argument, and if she tested clear, I could keep her with no further argument.

Fortunately she is not a carrier, because if she was, there would definitely be further argument 😂

It's funny - as a breeder I am attached to all of my foals, and always fantasize about keeping each of them, but really, since I want to keep breeding and don't want to be a hoarder, I don't struggle with that impulse much - in fact, I started breeding horses 20 years ago and she is the only horse I currently own that I bred (I've hung on to a couple over time, but eventually sold them, including one that I kept til he was 17, but when someone fell in love with him and asked to buy him, I realized that she loved him more than I did and he deserved to be with her). So I don't just keep them. But it was different with Delta - I just knew.

She is MASSIVE for her age. Her mom is 16.2 and built like a brick house; her dad is more finely built but 17.1 (that means that his withers - where the neck meets the back - is 5'9"). Delta looks to be on track to be as tall as her father, and maybe not quite as solid as her mother, but close. It's hard to tell in photos because baby horse fur is weird, but she will be jet black as an adult, not a spot of white on her (technically she has a white spot at the heel of one of her feet, but it isn't noticeable). She is too big for me - at 5'8" I have trouble reaching my legs to touch the right parts when riding a huge horse, and do better on a horse her mom's size, but we'll make do.

She has an incredibly quiet and easy disposition - she takes everything in stride. I won't be able to ride her til she's 3, but we hang out and do a lot together. Recently she learned to be led off a golf cart, which is a handy skill. A couple months ago I took her to some competitions where the goal was, while leading a horse, to tackle obstacles that mimicked things one might encounter on a trail ride, and judged the horse's ability to stay calm and approach the obstacles willingly. We got 3rd place in one, and 8th at the other - but that was out of a large group of horses, and at the one where she got 8th, she was the youngest horse by several years (it was also her first time leaving the property; I hosted the other at my place - so unlike the other horses, she had to deal with a whole new set of challenges *while processing the idea that there is a whole world out there.*

Anyway, just wanted to share my gigantic toddler horse. She is perfect and I am VERY proud of her.

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What a horse!
I know the temptation.
We owned a thoroughbred that was an ex-racehorse that couldn't cut it on the track. Wasn't easy to handle and stubborn. They tried him on a polo field and it didn't work out. Made a much better farm horse but was as skittish a deer. Spent a few hours of my life walking back to the stable after being tossed far from home.

Our neighbor bred Arabs. I would, as a teenager, go help exercise the younger horses as the workers were terribly hard on their mouths. It was always fun and the young stallions were great, but frisky. The amount of times the breeder and I discussed keeping a particular horse and then she would end up selling it. Always saying, "I'm breeding to sell not breeding to raise. Some of the horses have to pay for the others' feed." Was always sad when a special horse moved on. But usually, it was on to better things.
 

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Jack Dempsey
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I like horses a softy for race horses.
Did you know that you can buy a fractional share in a racehorse? The cost varies but it's usually under or around $100. Your share is not enough to give you rights to make decisions about the horse or anything like that, but you do get weekly updates about what the horse is up to and where it will be racing - and if you buy into one that is near you, you can not only go watch it race but you have some owner privilege to go meet it in the barn.

My favorite part is that, unlike my horses, there's no further commitment. I bought Mr. Heck shares in 2 young racehorses as a gift last year and one of them turned out to have a congenital defect for which she needed surgery, and that was not our problem (surgery went well but she will probably need to retire).

And if the horse wins, you do get your fractional share of the prize! Mr. Heck got paid out just over $16 for the successes of his other horse so far 😂

It's the kind of thing that, like other horse ownership, will never *make* money - but it loses less and you don't have to ride or pay vet bills 😂😂😂😂


And no this is not a commercial, I'm not in the racehorse industry and have never even been to a race, I just think it's a fun way for people who like horses to get a piece of their own at a price they can afford so you get a little bit of pride of ownership.
 
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Jack Dempsey
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What a horse!
I know the temptation.
We owned a thoroughbred that was an ex-racehorse that couldn't cut it on the track. Wasn't easy to handle and stubborn. They tried him on a polo field and it didn't work out. Made a much better farm horse but was as skittish a deer. Spent a few hours of my life walking back to the stable after being tossed far from home.

Our neighbor bred Arabs. I would, as a teenager, go help exercise the younger horses as the workers were terribly hard on their mouths. It was always fun and the young stallions were great, but frisky. The amount of times the breeder and I discussed keeping a particular horse and then she would end up selling it. Always saying, "I'm breeding to sell not breeding to raise. Some of the horses have to pay for the others' feed." Was always sad when a special horse moved on. But usually, it was on to better things.
Oh, Thoroughbreds. They're neat horses, but a lot of them are spicy.

I've never owned one, but my breed has a semi-open studbook, which means that, under certain (very strict) conditions, you can get approval to use horses of other breeds in a breeding program, and 2 of my broodmares are *half* Thoroughbred; their dams were off the track and got breeding approval.

I had an Arabian mare who I took through the approval process; I registered her son Hanoverian. But the market for Arabians (and Arabian crosses, regardless of what they're registered as) is pretty soft right now, and as much as I loved that mare, I don't to breed horses if the market doesn't want them - just like if I were breeding dogs, I wouldn't breed pit bulls. Nothing against them, just that right now there are too many and the world doesn't need more of them. I still have, um, "genetic material" from my favorite Arabian stallion in frozen storage - it keeps indefinitely that way, so I'll use it when/if the market improves.
 

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I'll let you in on a little secret - I've been doing this for 40 years and I'm still a pretty lousy rider 😂

Pic is me riding one of my favorite girls, who is currently 3 months pregnant by Delta's dad.

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for a pretty lousy rider that is some good posting posture right there. Is that a western saddle?

I have always said, "I can stay on a horse. It's not pretty, but it gets the job done." I had horse owner friends who were regulars at the gymkhana club who described my riding as sloppy and floppy. I answer that I learnt to ride as a kid alone on a farm watching cowboy movies.

I think everyone should experience the thrill of something so powerful beneath you yet obeys your commands with thin leather reins and foot placement.

Did a few outrides this summer.
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We have a not-too-distant neighbour who kept horses, in fact pastured some of them on our land most years, so I got to do some riding on horses that were, let's say, "appropriate" to my skill level in the saddle. Sadly, that gent passed away recently, and his widow sold off all the livestock. I've also done a couple of horseback hunts, in Wyoming and Montana, but that was more a case of letting a smart, experienced horse who knew what it was doing carry me around on its back. :)

I don't really understand the concept of owning a horse without having to ride it. The only possible reason I could use to justify the expense and work of owning a horse would be because you get to ride it! But when I was working, I couldn't ask my somewhat disinterested wife to take on the work for two or three weeks per month, and now that I am retired I find I am working on more projects and have less time than I did when employed! :)

Horses are like boats; great to enjoy when a friend owns one, but simply too much work for me to want to take it on full time. :)
 
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