Discrimination against men with long hair in work places

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vaine111;4401975; said:
I always knew the word pony in your username was for ponytail...
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You figured me out! My face is actually a skull, which is where the death part comes in.

But seriously. I think one reason I haven't been hired recently is because I have very strong facial features and defines brow. I almost look Arab or Scandanavian. It's ridiculous when I'm applying for an artistic job, like Michael's, and they don't take my personal work into consideration.

I do find that independent businesses are more forgiving with looks.
 
Well, Amazing Pictures offered me the job and I took their offer and cut my hair, Right or Wrong choice? I felt strongly about my hair, and even stronger about the point that they could not hire someone with long hair, but between this being a good job and the fact that their guidelines are there to satisfy the companies they work for, Disney World and Universal Studios, I understand and respect that from a business stand point.
 
You made a right choice to me. I don't mind long hair if that's a person choice but in a professional world, you really have to obey their rules and regulations. In my elementary and high school years, long hair for boys is widely discouraged however, in college, it's basically by choice although some professors still disapprove of it. I've never sported long hair nor will have intentions to do so. It's just not my type.
 
You keep showing your individuality just like everyone else...

But in all honesty, you don't want a job. You want to prove a point. The problem is that none of the employers you've found care about your point. If you wanted a job, you would cut your hair. You want to be a non conformist. I wouldn't hire a non conformist either.

And to whomever said the employers have a lawsuit coming - ummm, no. They have a right to hire whichever person they want. They can not discriminate on race, sexuality, sexual preference, age, blah blah blah. List below. Hair isn't in the EEO guidelines.

http://www.eeoc.gov/employees/index.cfm
 
fhawk362;4416970; said:
Well, Amazing Pictures offered me the job and I took their offer and cut my hair, Right or Wrong choice? I felt strongly about my hair, and even stronger about the point that they could not hire someone with long hair, but between this being a good job and the fact that their guidelines are there to satisfy the companies they work for, Disney World and Universal Studios, I understand and respect that from a business stand point.
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Well, kinda disregard my last post! I only read to about post 45-50 and missed the news about the new job. Congratulations on bowing down TO THE MAN! I kid I kid. This is what it takes to make it in the world. Do I want to wear slacks and a nice shirt to work? NO. I would rater wear jeans. But the dress code is the dress code.

Anyway, congrats on the new job - I hope it works out well for you. In the end, it's just a little hair.
 
I am glad you got the job. With the economy right now, I would sacrifice a lot more than just my hair to have a job.
 
Clay;4417229; said:
And to whomever said the employers have a lawsuit coming - ummm, no. They have a right to hire whichever person they want. They can not discriminate on race, sexuality, sexual preference, age, blah blah blah. List below. Hair isn't in the EEO guidelines.

http://www.eeoc.gov/employees/index.cfm
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Long hair and facial hair is part of some religions. ;) So are piercings and tattoos. Basing employment on such things ( and having the balls to voice it) is a decision that could end you up in some hot water. People have sued and won over way less before.

EDIT: This is right from the EEOC website:


Religious Accommodation/Dress & Grooming Policies

Unless it would be an undue hardship on the employer's operation of its business, an employer must reasonably accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices. This applies not only to schedule changes or leave for religious observances, but also to such things as dress or grooming practices that an employee has for religious reasons. These might include, for example, wearing particular head coverings or other religious dress (such as a Jewish yarmulke or a Muslim headscarf), or wearing certain hairstyles or facial hair (such as Rastafarian dreadlocks or Sikh uncut hair and beard). It also includes an employee's observance of a religious prohibition against wearing certain garments (such as pants or miniskirts).
 
You do understand that long hair isn't a religion, right? And this is clearly not a case of religious discrimination?
 
Clay;4417552; said:
You do understand that long hair isn't a religion, right? And this is clearly not a case of religious discrimination?
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ay ay ay... I never said it was... to either of your questions. 1st, you are correct. Long hair isn't a religion.:screwy: Not a tough one to figure out. Long hair is PART of several religions. It is in the eeoc code that it is illegal to discriminate against any part of a religion as long as it doesn't cause undue hardship to the employers operation of business.

2nd. no it is not "CLEARLY not a case of religious discrimination". There is no such thing as clearly in this kind of situation, as I'm sure the employer didn't ask if it was part of a religion, and probably just started rambling about company policy. If this perspective employee decided to claim religious discrimination, the employer would have some explaining to do, and it wouldn't be fun or easy. Thats the type of thing that gets people fired or worse. All i'm saying is it is a very risky move with serious consequences over something as trivial as the physical appearance of your employees.
 
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