thanks for all the help..i do know about jack,and i admire and respect him greatly.there is always something to be sead about old school...we now have wrigglers they hatched sun. we have tried most of your guys advice,now i am leaving the tank lights off,and keeping the room light on.we are seeing new behavior and i am hopeful..the female is staying right next to the fry,so i hope this will help fry to feed.i do have cyclop-eeze frozen bar.i use it to feed my fry..i also think its much better then bbc...i dont want to take the fry away from there parents,parental care has been breed out of angle fish and i dont want to risk it. and i love my tfh mag...cant live without that , the only reason i buy the mag is for jacks wisdom...wish me luck 
