Electric Blue Jack Dempsey hybrid or not?

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I have addressed all I need to address as far as the potential for hybrid. Just take a look at some of the African cichlids currently on the market - all popping up at around the same time - in ponds in FL. Albinos, OB's, you name it. I know one of the breeders that created a few strains of these fish, and they all breed pure amigo. There are numerous examples. And today there is no debate as to their origin.

As much as I have always leaned towards te EBJD being pure, there is a side to me that does so with great caution.

1. The original spawns came from a pair of fish that came from a "friend" - 2. both fish from this lucky pair just happened to carry this recessive color gene - 3. the owner just happened to be involved in breeding & showing fish on a commercial basis - which he later sold to distributors in SA, and later when the internet progressed to importers in NA - 4. a business that his son carried on for many years, possibly still does today.

Maybe it was just luck of the draw, or maybe these guys knew exactly what they were doing.


There are a LOT of fish besides Flowerhorn that have come out of Taiwan, China, Bangkok, Singapore, etc - that to date no one besides the breeder knows how they were created. Many are still being produced. In the fish biz the quest for something new never ends.
 
And yes, blue acara would be another possible creation out of Taiwan. Red Severum, etc-etc. Short of some serious DNA work no one knows what breeders in Asia are doing - and that is where most of these fish originate.
 
As previously stated, I'm not a hater, I love these fish, and owned some of the first to arrive here in NA. I'm just not 100% sold that they are 100% JD. :)
 
100% certainty is impossible these days in the hobby as you say .. only best guesses .. even stringent genetic testing may not give absolute answers because of captive evolution
 
I don't know the author of the following comment, or have any idea if it's true, but if true then interesting.

http://www.petproductnews.com/Blogs/Blog/Fish-Absolutely-Electric-Blue-Jack-Dempsey/

Quite a few ichthyologists in South America are skeptical about their natural genomes. Upon observation, one might notice certain anatomical variances in the buccal cavity, cranial shape and dorso-ventral measurements.
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And clearly, for anyone that has kept these fish over the years, there's some funky physical characteristics that manifest in many of these fish, things one would not typically see in normal EBJD. A lot of people blow these odd physical attributes off due to inbreeding, but again leaves me going hmmmm.
 
Oops, meant normal JD .....
 
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