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deal with the truck being inconvenient because it is paid for right now
Hello; This sounds right. Some depends on the condition of the truck and what mods you have done. But in general stick with what is paid for. More later.

So say get a credit card and use for smaller things? ..
Hello; No to this for my dime. CC's are a trap. Think of them as financial pit vipers to be handled with utmost care. I know we pretty much need one, but only to use sparingly. Not for trivial stuff like a meal. That financial hole gets deep in a hurry.
they did find some sludge in the engine cap so that's my main concern
Hello; Sludge at your mileage is not necessarily a big deal. Did they show you or just tell you? It is fine shinny bits in the oil that are the main concern. If you do your own oil change let the old hot oil sit in a clean container for a day. Slowly pour off the oil into another container until just a little is left.
In that remaining oil look for shinny streaks and bits. That will be bearing and other metal material wearing off the insides of the engine.
Also if the oil pan drain plug has a magnet attached it will have some ferrous material. Will almost look like hairs. Most any engine will have some metal in the oil so a little is not reason to panic. The less is better but some is to be expected. A lot is a warning sign that the engine is in trouble.

But my main concern with that is forgetting to pay it at the end of the month...
Hello; Pay at the end of each month. Also pay the first or second day you get the bill to avoid late fees. Do not carry a balance at all.

Can you set up automatic payment? Or maybe open another checking account and transfer money over everytime I use my credit card?
Hello; I doubt this is possible. Keep in mind they like it when you are late and when you carry a balance. Some years ago I went on a trip. I sent in several hundred dollars to my CC carrier to make sure I did not get behind. I also paid more each month for a while after the trip so I had a positive balance for a few months. The CC company sent me a check for the extra saying they do not do business that way.

Building your credit at a young age helps you in the future. Showing the bank that you can make your car payment on time and etc... will only help you when the time is right to buy a ho
Hello; I have not bought anything major on time since the mid 1980's. I was in a debt hole much as many are. I had an old car that was paid for. I kept it and made payments to myself of $300 a month into a savings account. The 300 was about what a average car payment was back then.
After a few years I had about 8K saved. I used that 8K as collateral to buy a used full sized Ford van. Two main advantages from that. I got the loan against my own money so had no problems getting approved. I also only had to pay about 2% net interest. The loan interest was only about 6% due to using my own money. The interest on my savings was around 4% so I wound up paying about 2%. At the end of the three years my van was paid for and I still had the initial amount of money in my savings.
I have used this method ever since for cars and such, Even saved enough to buy my house outright eight years ago.
The last time I check my credit rating it was over 800.

trucks paid off run that sucker into the ground
Hello; yes to this. Trucks can be ugly and as long as they run are fine.
This is another hustle and another reason to be forever in Debt.
Hello; I go along with this pretty much as well.

just paying off monthly bills with that credit card right away will build your credit.
Hello; This as well. (Something is wrong here. I have agreed with Jaws three times in a row.)

credit card and say use it for dinner can I go home and pay it off same day?
Hello; Not the same day just be sure to pay each month in full. Debt you carry over a year can get you into over 20% interest.

Hello; On your old truck. My rule of thumb on when to get rid of a truck is when the monthly repair bill average out to be more that a monthly payment. I am (or at least was) a decent mechanic so my labor was a free cost to me.
My last bit of advice is to learn how to do as much repair work yourself. If you live next to an old hand such as myself My guess is he/she will be willing to show you some stuff.
If you have some spare time hang around a shade tree mechanic. Do some fetching and such. I learned how to do brake jobs on the old drum brakes by watching my uncle and handing him tools. ( Also saw him blow the asbestos brake dust into the air. Back then brake dust loaded with the stuff came off into the air every time a car slowed down. I have breathed my fair share.)
 
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Hello; This sounds right. Some depends on the condition of the truck and what mods you have done. But in general stick with what is paid for. More later.


Hello; No to this for my dime. CC's are a trap. Think of them as financial pit vipers to be handled with utmost care. I know we pretty much need one, but only to use sparingly. Not for trivial stuff like a meal. That financial hole gets deep in a hurry.

Hello; Sludge at your mileage is not necessarily a big deal. Did they show you or just tell you? It is fine shinny bits in the oil that are the main concern. If you do your own oil change let the old hot oil sit in a clean container for a day. Slowly pour off the oil into another container until just a little is left.
In that remaining oil look for shinny streaks and bits. That will be bearing and other metal material wearing off the insides of the engine.
Also if the oil pan drain plug has a magnet attached it will have some ferrous material. Will almost look like hairs. Most any engine will have some metal in the oil so a little is not reason to panic. The less is better but some is to be expected. A lot is a warning sign that the engine is in trouble.


Hello; Pay at the end of each month. Also pay the first or second day you get the bill to avoid late fees. Do not carry a balance at all.


Hello; I doubt this is possible. Keep in mind they like it when you are late and when you carry a balance. Some years ago I went on a trip. I sent in several hundred dollars to my CC carrier to make sure I did not get behind. I also paid more each month for a while after the trip so I had a positive balance for a few months. The CC company sent me a check for the extra saying they do not do business that way.


Hello; I have not bought anything major on time since the mid 1980's. I was in a debt hole much as many are. I had an old car that was paid for. I kept it and made payments to myself of $300 a month into a savings account. The 300 was about what a average car payment was back then.
After a few years I had about 8K saved. I used that 8K as collateral to buy a used full sized Ford van. Two main advantages from that. I got the loan against my own money so had no problems getting approved. I also only had to pay about 2% net interest. The loan interest was only about 6% due to using my own money. The interest on my savings was around 4% so I wound up paying about 2%. At the end of the three years my van was paid for and I still had the initial amount of money in my savings.
I have used this method ever since for cars and such, Even saved enough to buy my house outright eight years ago.
The last time I check my credit rating it was over 800.


Hello; yes to this. Trucks can be ugly and as long as they run are fine.

Hello; I go along with this pretty much as well.


Hello; This as well. (Something is wrong here. I have agreed with Jaws three times in a row.)


Hello; Not the same day just be sure to pay each month in full. Debt you carry over a year can get you into over 20% interest.

Hello; On your old truck. My rule of thumb on when to get rid of a truck is when the monthly repair bill average out to be more that a monthly payment. I am (or at least was) a decent mechanic so my labor was a free cost to me.
My last bit of advice is to learn how to do as much repair work yourself. If you live next to an old hand such as myself My guess is he/she will be willing to show you some stuff.
If you have some spare time hang around a shade tree mechanic. Do some fetching and such. I learned how to do brake jobs on the old drum brakes by watching my uncle and handing him tools. ( Also saw him blow the asbestos brake dust into the air. Back then brake dust loaded with the stuff came off into the air every time a car slowed down. I have breathed my fair share.)

It seems as though everyone is against me getting a new vehicle and I completely understand why.... but the only reason I'm looking at another one is because I am still at home and I feel getting something more reliable now would be x100 better than trying too buy one when 90% of my money goes to bills. I don't plan to move out for another year so theoretically I could just save for a year and have 20k+ but I want to start looking for a career and start pursuing that also
 

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It seems as though everyone is against me getting a new vehicle and I completely understand why.... but the only reason I'm looking at another one is because I am still at home and I feel getting something more reliable now would be x100 better than trying too buy one when 90% of my money goes to bills. I don't plan to move out for another year so theoretically I could just save for a year and have 20k+ but I want to start looking for a career and start pursuing that also
I' not against it personally, I'm just speaking from experience. If I could go back and do it all over again I would get a place settle in then start looking for a vehical. If you can pay cash for a vehical that is great.
 

skjl47

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It seems as though everyone is against me getting a new vehicle and I completely understand why.... but the only reason I'm looking at another one is because I am still at home and I feel getting something more reliable now would be x100 better than trying too buy one when 90% of my money goes to bills. I don't plan to move out for another year so theoretically I could just save for a year and have 20k+ but I want to start looking for a career and start pursuing that also
Hello; A basic rule of money when you do not have enough is to cut back and do without in order to save.
You are at home now, but for how long? A car payment can last 5 years or more. Say you get kicked out of the nest before then and no longer have that cushion. You will be out with living expenses and a car payment.
Too late for me to be one who tells you to go ahead and buy a new car now but maybe someone else will. Sorry for not knowing a short cut other than scrimp and do without in order to save.
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Deadliestviper7

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Thank you all for the reply's / advise. I think as of now I'm gonna keep doing Wat I'm doing saving up for a vehicle and wether or not I finance will depend on the dealership. After the new vehicle I'm gonna start looking into apprenticeships more seriously and hopefully move up pretty quick but we'll see. If I'm not in a financial place to move out wen my gf graduates then we'll just have to wait a bit.. Patience is a virtue.
NEVER EVER buy from a dealer, those same cars are sold for way less at an auction, as a auction driver I can confirm this,
When buying Auction cars avoid:
Bmws.
Vehicles with transmission damage (expensive to fix)
Vehicles with obvious frame damage.

Buying at an auction will save you (generally) anywhere from 2 to 60 grand depending on the vehicle.
Vehicles sold towards the end of the auction generally sell for the lowest because most people have already spent what they are going to spend.


Buying off Craigslist : make sure to drive vehicle before making a offer, be sure to pay attention to the engines sound and vibration, avoid cars with uneven or shaky engine, vehicle should move smoothly when you press on the gas.
Bonus points for checking under the hood
 

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You are young and have most of your life ahead of you to live and learn. I think your mind is pretty well made up about getting a new vehicle. Many of us would have probably done the same at your age. The advice we have given you is based on our life experiences and hindsight. Sorry, if none of us can advise you, "Go for it. Get the vehicle you want."

Why don't you do a little exercise and research how much it will cost you when you move out from your parent's house and on your own. How much are you going to pay in rent, utilities, cable, internet, car insurance each month? Throw in a big vehicle payment and your living expenses like food, clothing, and how much money will you have left every month? Research and know what you will be up against once you leave your parents' house.

Someone gave you really good advice about seeking a job with good benefits. If you are willing to relocate to California, consider this:
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Career_Opportunities/POR/docs/COBulletin.pdf

Not a glamorous job, but it will more than pay the bills and make payments on big trucks. Guys and gals who do a lot of overtime can double their monthly earnings. There are lots of opportunity for advancement, great benefits and retirement.
 

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You are young and have most of your life ahead of you to live and learn. I think your mind is pretty well made up about getting a new vehicle. Many of us would have probably done the same at your age. The advice we have given you is based on our life experiences and hindsight. Sorry, if none of us can advise you, "Go for it. Get the vehicle you want."

Why don't you do a little exercise and research how much it will cost you when you move out from your parent's house and on your own. How much are you going to pay in rent, utilities, cable, internet, car insurance each month? Throw in a big vehicle payment and your living expenses like food, clothing, and how much money will you have left every month? Research and know what you will be up against once you leave your parents' house.

Someone gave you really good advice about seeking a job with good benefits. If you are willing to relocate to California, consider this:
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Career_Opportunities/POR/docs/COBulletin.pdf

Not a glamorous job, but it will more than pay the bills and make payments on big trucks. Guys and gals who do a lot of overtime can double their monthly earnings. There are lots of opportunity for advancement, great benefits and retirement.
Do not go to California man, everyone out here came to get out of California, if you want a job go for a armed guard card and make some dough.
 

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Do not go to California man, everyone out here came to get out of California, if you want a job go for a armed guard card and make some dough.
I was going to suggest corrections, until I saw how little correctional officers make in Kentucky--$1945.50 - 2577.50 :( In California they start at $4309 and max out at 7,195.

Living in California is not all bad. Granted, there are a lot of places I would not live in California, however, there is no place I would rather live than where I am. My back yard:





California is not all bad.
 

Deadliestviper7

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I was going to suggest corrections, until I saw how little correctional officers make in Kentucky--$1945.50 - 2577.50 :( In California they start at $4309 and max out at 7,195.

Living in California is not all bad. Granted, there are a lot of places I would not live in California, however, there is no place I would rather live than where I am. My back yard:





California is not all bad.
Agreed, it's the laws out there that are bad,
(And traffic,especially socal).

But the land is pretty nice where it isn't to developed.
 
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